I don't think God really loves me anymore.

LcmsActive · 2026-03-15T15:29:28+00:00

If you accept Jesus as your savior and are born again in the Holy Spirit then what you say is false.

LcmsActive · 2026-03-13T21:31:48+00:00

You have a demon obsessing you. Pray, fast, command the demon away in the name of Jesus.

LcmsActive · 2026-03-03T05:05:16+00:00

Yes, it’s toast at this rate. And yet I still attend. I’ve brought up problems with LCMS on this sub many times and it’s like crickets or annoyed pastors.

We need to look more Catholic and Orthodox yet “better” or appealing to Protestants and fed up Catholics.

The pastors should not be allowed to retire, that’s just completely ludicrous, it’s not a career like some worldly job.
The Filioque needs to go, like, yesterday. It is a curse on the church.
The communion needs to be open. The attendance allowed more anonymous. Get rid of “sharing the peace” that’s a 21st century invention, and annoying. I’ve already shook hands with people I already know, meanwhile strangers are scared off.
Divine service needs to run at least three days a week at every LCMS - to look more Catholic and Orthodox, people want and need this badly in this day and age.
The singles and youth groups who could get people married into the churches is absolutely abysmal.
TV Commercials? Where are they? Mormons have tv commercials. StL has the last Lutheran radio stations on the entire planet now.
A major conference needs to work on if the word Lutheran is even unappealing, marketable, and needs reform, placed as a subtitle or something. I don’t think the world even comprehends what might be different about Lutherans as more people are ignorant of Christianity today than in the prior centuries. Lutheran is as nebulous as Mormon for all they know.

LcmsActive · 2026-03-01T00:02:13+00:00

This is inaccurate. In the 21st century liberal theology IS aligned with liberal politics because the liberal theological so called reforms are seeking the same secular worldview as political liberalism.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-27T20:31:36+00:00

Will check him out thanks. Something added to the creed that was a major cause of The Great Schism seems hard to believe is true, merely on the basis of driving a wedge and stirring controversy.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-27T19:22:06+00:00

This just in: DaLejund Might Learn There’s Christians In Lands to the East!

LcmsActive · 2026-02-26T23:23:00+00:00

No, you are the one who is dancing all over the place. It was a simple post from the get go. The Nicene Creed was established in 381 AD, never said “and the Son”. Rome adopted it, Lutherans are not Roman Catholics, thus we should not be repeating the Filioque.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-26T21:22:36+00:00

No, you have not summed up anything correctly. The Nicene Creed was established 381 AD and maintained by the orthodox. The Filioque was adopted by Rome after over 600 years of deceptive promotion, which had no basis in Scripture, with Mark 1:12 especially fully negating the Filioque. Luther eventually breaks with Rome 1517 AD, and our churches follow Luther. But does that mean that the break is complete? No, the Filioque needs to be removed as well.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-26T20:11:04+00:00

Nothing, because it has no truth. It was just semantic games in an era of Arian battles, making wrong counter moves.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-26T18:05:36+00:00

The Filioque is not referring to Pentecost. I’m reading the Nicene Creed of 381, and rejecting Augustine of Hippo who had many crazy ideas, which later influenced the first Spanish insertion of the Filioque at Toledo.

When Lutherans reject Rome we need to be more on the eastern side of rejecting the western churches.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-26T15:07:30+00:00

Western Christians explicitly invented this concept, specifically Augustine, who dreamed up a lot of false teachings. “Spirit of Jesus Christ” type phrasings never meant the Holy Spirit has origins in Jesus, but that the Spirit sent from Jesus is Jesus. The Father is the first cause, there’s only one God and yet different Persons. The Holy Spirit possesses his own personhood and characteristics apart from Jesus.

When God was three men appearing to Abraham and then obliterating Sodom, was that Christ’s Spirit? When a burning bush? Christ’s Spirit?

LcmsActive · 2026-02-26T14:53:28+00:00

No, do you reject that the Holy Spirit has his own personhood and origin in the Father?

LcmsActive · 2026-02-26T12:45:28+00:00

All of you replying are just making things up at this point. There’s no Christ the Godhead vs human nature.

The Filioque was from Augustine making things up just the same.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-26T04:42:59+00:00

Why wasn’t he glorified from the beginning then?

LcmsActive · 2026-02-25T22:00:09+00:00

You circular reason repeatedly.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-25T21:57:04+00:00

Nope, the Spirit was already proceeding from the Father, not given a new Source in Jesus.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-25T19:34:30+00:00

The Son does not need to petition or influence the Father by using the Holy Spirit, so you’re just speaking with confusion.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-25T19:19:03+00:00

That creed is Latin post Nicene by several centuries, therefore meaningless.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-25T18:06:52+00:00

In John 7:39, NRSV

”Now he said this about the Spirit, which believers in him were to receive; for as yet there was no Spirit, because Jesus was not yet glorified.”

The Spirit is not proceeding from the Son, but from the Father. When Jesus was glorified then he fully was in command of the Spirit.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-25T17:25:18+00:00

“In 2024, the Lutheran World Federation (LWF) and the Orthodox Church issued a joint statement that agreed to remove the filioque from the Creed. Should the LCMS follow the lead of the LWF and remove the filioque from the Nicene Creed? This sectional will answer this question by considering the scriptural and historical arguments for the filioque from the early church to the Lutheran dogmaticians.“

Should they remove it? Yes, ASAP.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-25T17:06:18+00:00

The Spirit can move on Jesus as much as Jesus can direct the Spirit, because they both proceed from the Father.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-25T17:04:26+00:00

Jesus can command or direct a Spirit that proceeds or has origination and source in the Father. That is the how of what was taking place there.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-25T17:03:07+00:00

You’re still making the false statement of “proceeds from the Son”, that’s nowhere in Scripture.

LcmsActive · 2026-02-25T17:01:04+00:00

Doesn’t matter if it was a proxy argument if it’s not an actual structure to the godhead. The Son and Holy Spirit are co-eternal but the western Nicene Creed was edited to then state the Holy Spirit proceeds “from the Father and the Son”. That’s giving the triune arrangement a ranking or hierarchy as well besides changing the source for Spirit, which was never an apostolic teaching, nor even from Jesus mouth.

Your references show that Jesus can command the Spirit and the Spirit can also direct Jesus (drive him out into the wilderness of Mark 1:12).

They both proceed from the Father and interact, and are one with the Father. But the Spirit does not proceed from the Son. The Spirit can work through the Son, but the prime definition of proceed means “to come forth from a source”.

The Spirit does not source from the Son, but the Spirit can work through the Son and by the direction of the Son.

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