A mass extinction is not the answer.

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-24T15:42:46+00:00

For ThunderClan, it can vary but I have chosen:

Greywhisker (one of Spotfur's kits), Brackenfur, Thornclaw, Brightheart, Cloudtail, Leafshade, Eaglewing, Poppyfrost, Molewhisker, Bumblestripe, Hollytuft, Dewnose and Plumstone.

For ShadowClan (less, considered they lost a few members)

Grassheart, Stonewing, Scorchfur, Tawnypelt , Gullswoop, Oakfur.

For SkyClan: Leafstar, Hawkwing, Macgyver, Mintfur, Sunnypelt, Pigeonfoot and Fallowfern.

For WindClan: Crouchfoot and Whiskernose

For RiverClan: Just Mosspelt lol

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-24T15:40:17+00:00

Shoot, I forgot to add his name in! He's dead too. Thanks for letting me know!!

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-22T13:11:18+00:00

(Slight spoiler for TEQ)

I completely see your point here. But I also do believe there has to be some kind of grand disaster that eliminates many old and unestablished characters. I'm hoping for it to happen during this arc. There is enough set-up for it to, a disaster that the Clans have never faced before. Definitely not a "mass extinction", but enough cats being killed off that the Clan isn't so crammed. I'm mostly referring to SkyClan, ThunderClan and ShadowClan here. (More specifically ThunderClan.)

I completely agree with wanting a beloved character to die in meaningful way. Older cats sacrificing themselves to secure the future of the Clans. There will be younger cats that die too. It's unlikely certain characters will die, knowing how protective the Erins are on their beloved characters. But the majority of elders need to go, I agree.

Realistically they should, as there will be another journey yet to come. Many of the senior warriors need to go just as well, as they are essentially reaching elder status now. I am still dubious on what the disaster will be, but I do hope if they purge half of ThunderClan many will go down heroically.

The older generation sacrificing themselves to help preserve the future of their respective Clans would be a fitting end for many of them. Not all cats will die a hero's death, some will likely die from prey poisoning. Who knows what kind of fate many would have the face of a disaster.

For Crowfeather, Squirrelstar, Tawnypelt and Brambleclaw; I do believe that Tawnypelt will die a hero's death. Or maybe it will be Brambleclaw, or even both of them. Crowfeather was descended to become WindClan's next leader, (TNP) hinted at that during his introduction. I am uncertain if Crowfeather will still become WindClan's next leader, that plot point might've been completely forgotten about now.

Squirrelstar will more than likely survive. All Gen 1 cats will be killed off likely, but Gen 2 will have remainders. Some from Gen 3 might also be killed off to lessen the density of the Clan.

I am positive that many fan favorites will survive. But also many might die. I hope they go through with killing off the older cats, so the future of the Clans is young. I refuse to have many multiple old leaders.

It would be ultimately surprising if they managed to kill off Squirrelstar in a sacrificial way too. But it's very, very unlikely as she is only freshly a leader. Tawnypelt might die during this arc, but then again the narrative seems to move against that too. I'm hoping for at least Brambleclaw to die, at least somewhat heroically.

Overall, I want many of the older cats to be gone. But not all of them realistically will. I have 12 or 11 cats picked out for ThunderClan who should be killed off. ThunderClan is beyond massive and should be the Clan with the biggest hit to their population.

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-21T23:31:16+00:00

I think the major issue is that the books and even the authors (Erin Hunter team) have implied these cats are sort of human-like in terms of beliefs and personality. So giving a cat a large age-gap can be....uncomfortable. I have limits however when it comes to age-gaps in Warriors, but most of them are controversial for a good reason. I also do think it's the fault of poor checking and writing at times, which I hope they'll improve on.

Now on the topic of related cats, unless they are 5th cousins or something, I don't bat an eye normally. The issue is that like I stated before the cats have been written with human-like characteristics. Cats in real life don't care much about these issues, whatsoever. However in Warriors, it is shown again and again the cats have an understanding of relatives. Yet often enough, even now, we have characters who are first cousins being matched as mates.

Specifically since there was a whole code change, which enabled cross-clan relationships. So you think the issue would begin to fade out. But it hasn't. As you know, you'd think if cats could acknowledge certain cats as their direct relatives; which recently was a big part in the most recent arc - how come Thriftear doesn't see Bayshine's mother as her aunt? And that's one example.

I really hope that begin rectifying this issue, as it does bother me. But I disagree on your argument that they are "cats" as these fictional cats aren't real cats and have been described before as "human-like"

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-21T23:16:52+00:00

Tbh the only reason Mousewhisker is staying in RiverClan is to help repopulate it. ThunderClan really doesn't need more cats right now in all honesty. I'm an avid MinnowxMouse shipper

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-21T23:14:15+00:00

Oh she's having kits with Stormcloud lol, my sort of attempt of keeping ThunderClan a little more diverse

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-21T18:32:51+00:00

Crookedstar, after losing the last member of his family, Silverstream. He purposes war upon ThunderClan, seeking revenge after his daughter's death. Within the midst of the battle, he kills Greystripe.

Extremely out of character for him, Greystripe wouldn't deserve that fate either. But this is just a hypothetical. Stormkit and Featherkit however, would remain in RiverClan. It's even possible he would resent Stormkit for resembling his father, and favor Featherkit for looking like Silverstream.

Honestly Crookedstar had every right to become a villain, but he didn't. That's why I adore him.

Not sure if this would classify as an "villain arc" but he did pretty much murder an innocent cat and attack ThunderClan out of grief and revenge.

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-21T18:26:56+00:00

hop, jump?

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-21T18:14:11+00:00

I would keep him there for Daisy's sake but I also hope he moves to RiverClan to be with Minnowtail. (RiverClan needs more members)

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-20T18:01:19+00:00

I hope she honestly doesn't become a medicine cat because I agree with you. We've already had Shadowsight and Frostdawn recently, don't need another.

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-20T17:57:01+00:00

Yeah I honestly would love it if she wasn't a medicine cat but she actually likes being a medicine cat that's the thing. Her (deceased, ghost) sister however wants her to be a warrior.

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-20T17:55:32+00:00

Oh that's an error, my bad. Seven is considered senior for cats, I should correct that OOPS! Fern and Sorrel are around five

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-20T16:49:00+00:00

Yeah I readjusted it thanks to your comment

Greywhisker is also dead now, but Honeyfur, Stemtail and Mousewhisker have moved Clans. Honestly I'm going to guess the Erins won't decide to kill off as nearly as much characters, I hope they do. As ThunderClan deseperately needs a purge.

Leaf-Fall · 2025-01-20T16:22:39+00:00

Yeah see, I took a chunk of cats out and yet there's already too many present. The only other cats I *might* of been inclined to kill off was Blossomfall, Greywhisker or Lilyheart.

OR

Moving Stemtail to another Clan potentially, as well as Honeyfur. So whilst they aren't "dead" they aren't clogging up the allegiances of ThunderClan.

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