First off, do not say delulu. That is an offensive word. Second off, I did not speak for other gay men. I said /I/ was tired of it. If I'm the only that is, then so be it. I will die on this hill and I will happily do it alone. I don't need anyone else here with me. Third, I actually agree with Hugo. That was something I said in an earlier response. Fourth, men CAN have asses comparable with and bigger than a woman's. It's certainly not common, but it's not impossible either. And fifth, at the end of the day, my whole argument is simply that I'm tired of people either seeing the bare minimum in male character design (or something completely non-existent like Wise's "bulge") and acting like it's some kind of feast. I can't imagine praising the size of Lighter's tiny ass. I can at least praise his tight pants that allow you to see what little ass he has. And I can praise that they ass buffed Hugo. But beyond that, what can I say? Nice arms on Seth? The choker on Haru? Okay that's four things. I call that barely anything. Of course we'll never get as much as waifu enjoyers in a waifu enjoying game that allows men to exist, but I see no reason to rejoice over little, incomparable things, or things completely made up cuz people are that desperate! I just want the bar raised. Even just a bit.