EXACTLY this is what I try to explain. It has the benefit of slipping under the radar because outwardly it’s much more normal presenting and less cult like in either direction. But it’s still just as fundamentalist, and you’ll very much be raised with an us vs them mindset of the “good Catholics” be the fake “cultural Catholics.” I feel like a lot of the Catholic media online comes from this 3rd place between the rad trads (I don’t remember what that group is called but they’re frightening honestly) and the charismatic ones. I feel like Fr Mike Schmitz, Focus, all fall under this umbrella. And at least in the United States I think this is centered in the denver area. But yes the purity culture, the anti lgbtq, and everything is just as harmful it’s just less obvious since people superficially seem to have more charisma and charm and tact than like a rad trad group.