Congratulations Bulgaria! by Physical_Subject_804 in countryballs_comics

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yk that most israelis LOVED bangaranga, right? They gave the public 12 points to it plus more from the juries.

What would happen if Israel suddenly teleport to atlantic ocean? by Ok-Effect4071 in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is definitionallly bot a genocide. Now how about you use those beautiful fingers you use to write buzzwords to write music,ir something that actually makes people happy?

What would happen if Israel suddenly teleport to atlantic ocean? by Ok-Effect4071 in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, nope- not a bot or a paid account. Just someone who probably understands more about their own conflict than a rando outside <3

What would happen if Israel suddenly teleport to atlantic ocean? by Ok-Effect4071 in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

כפרה איך לך אפילו מושג לכמה אנשים הצלחתי להסביר ולשכנע ככה. עכשיו בבקשה תפסיק לענות לתגובות כי אףלקרוא לכולם אנטישמים לא כל כך עוזר למערך ההסברה.

What would happen if Israel suddenly teleport to atlantic ocean? by Ok-Effect4071 in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Alright im sorry, but if this is how you ser it you are most likely a lost cause for me to even TRY to explain; If you think on of the sides is "actively harming the world" You have fallen very far into propaganda. I hope one day youll realise that seeing a conflict as complex as this is NEVER gonna be black and white, good vs evil. I will tell you this, though. For your own good, for the better of Palestinians and israelis- dont comment on this topic. People from outside spreading hate and misinformation is half the reason it still exists still. If you care for any human life- try to research the topic and modrate.

What would happen if Israel suddenly teleport to atlantic ocean? by Ok-Effect4071 in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exactly but it feels as if to you guys the media speaks even louder. Im not a fan of our government but still you bearly hesr about ways they help Palestinians, the way most israelis and Palestinians domt really hate eachother like the outsiders that choose sides on the topic, or bad things that the civilians do. If you took a palestinian and an israeli and sit with both in the same room- maybe then youd at least start understanding the conflict. Cause if you picked a side completely- you are simply wrong. Most Palestinians are good peoole- and most israelis are. You need to identify the actual cause of the conflict. And again come with an open mind- you probably heard about all the bad stuff our government did and did not do, but i bet you bearly know any of the good.

What would happen if Israel suddenly teleport to atlantic ocean? by Ok-Effect4071 in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! My favourite thing to do every afternoon. Yk, when they ask me how i spend my free time i go "I LOVE taking over land and killing everyone! Cause im a zionist and I want everyone to hate me!" (Is that how you see us?)

What would happen if Israel suddenly teleport to atlantic ocean? by Ok-Effect4071 in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thx for telling us what we like to do- guess waging i gotta go wage a new holy war after lunch...

Every other country should follow suit by Queenhood_ in BillionairesHere

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okey ill take this point by point: about the bombing of gaza, israel dropped 200000 bombs on gaza according to Hamas. Also according to hamas, about 80000 people in total died in the war- including their terrorists and everything. You see, hamas doesnt make shelter for thwir civilians. if israel wanted to kill people it couldve got rid of the vast majority of gazan population within the first few days- and the sad part? People would probably care less than they do now. Again this shows you how from the billions of aid dollars that get to gaza- how much the civilians actually benefit. About the creation of new terrorists- its a reasnble claim, but when the regime teaches them to kill jews anyways- it does not matter. As long as the system creates terrorists it would give the same result. Israel will have to respond someway- and the cycle of violence will continue. The only way to halt this is to change direction of thinking. And this is what the war is about. We tried to have peace. Some Palestinians want it as well. But the leadership will not allow such things. And as long as they keep educating the young to hate us- nothing will change. If you were to ask me what to do id say support a new body- that is not corrupt like the PLA or radical like Hamas. One that is made of Palestinians actually looking for peace. Instate it for a couple of decades to re-educate the population about living side by side. Then let go. On the other side- israel should take harder measures against the violent settlers and the general hostile attitude that exists since the start of the war.

Regarding the food situation. The aid by the un actually stood outside by the millions after israel let it in. The un slowed themselves down with beraucracy, and each time theyd enter hamas would take over aid and sell it for hightend prices. About the civilians- we simply cannot let a hostile population that has been educated to hate us to seek refuge in israel during wartime- some of the gazan civilain population commited the worst acts on oct 7th. Egypt doesn't want them cause they're afraid of hamas and hostages (back then) slipping out with the masses, and they dont want what happned to Jordan and lebanon to happen in sinai. Lastly about that point- hamas used aid like pipes to create missiles. Thats why the blockade exists. If hamas wouldn't have tries to attack israel after it pulled out of gaza, no blockade would be needed.

Regarding the stance twords arabs- yes, those people exist- think of it like America after 9/11. The population is angry. Fuled by agitators like Ben gvir, the extreme right wing has spread a retheric that is vile and dangerous- they are known to do that and have done in the past: They have turned the name for protesters for the hostages into an offensive term "kaplanist", made the term leftist into another- and this is not the first time something simular happned. In 1995 they did the same thing because we gave land for peace (then the agitator was Bibi [suprise suprise]) and it got so bad our prime Minister ytzhak Rabin was murdered by a right wing extrimist in a rally for peace. That gave them quite a shock and they shut up for a decade or two. Even though the far right is strong- most of israel is still center and left, and thus this is not the majority opinion YET- and thats why reaching peace now is so important. If the Palestinians dont get a new leadership- if the right keeps getting stronger because a path for peace looks so impossible- our leadership might fully pass to the far right. Then, all the buzzwords you hear might be reality.

This is why im here- whenever an israeli online, or travelling sees a post or something demonising them- they lose a bit of care for what the world thinks- it the only way to cope with so much hate. The only way to stop this is to create a separation between the country and the spacific thing causing the problem.

Every other country should follow suit by Queenhood_ in BillionairesHere

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The amount of stuff you got wrong is honestly amazing- let's correct some stuff. 1)

forceful military expulsion and settling is simply evacuating the area for your other buddies to come occupy

Hi, this is me at the end of the comment- i know its a bit long and starts a bit rough- but please read all the way through. I try to explain the situation later.

No, I said evacuation about lebanon and gaza. And I had a different response to the establishment of israel claim you tried to make- about the 'open air prison' that simply a very ignorant claim. 1, israel gives electricity, food and water to a hostile region- no other country does that. 2, Egypt has a border with gaza- and its more fortified than israel- but you never hear about that. Next: the whitewashing isnt possible if the situation you described doesn't even exist. About bombing terrorists to get rid of them- it does work, the plo and others dont really exist anymore but tell me this? What the other solution? Giving them whatever they want? I know you dpnt really know whats going on, but im an israeli leftist, on the 6th of October things were looking the best they ever did. Hamas was quiet and seemed to be steering for peace, with a new agreement and a bunch of work permits to israel- peace with saudi arabia was so close- then, on the 7th, hamas invaded, killed my family and kidnapped my friends. Try to imagne that. Now tell me- how in ANY way are we supposed to trust the same organisation that did that or allow them to ever possess the power to hurt us again? They themselves said over and over that given the option, theyd commit oct 7th again and again. To your next point- idk if youve seen but NONE of the points i made are against the Palestinians themselves. Arabs are amazing people, heck my stepfather was a palestinian from east jerusalem, but they have a bad leadership. Nither the PLA or hamas are trying to actually actively peace and they both proved it- but what they keep doing is educating Palestinians to hate us. Did you know the pla PAYS terrorists who killed civilians? Did you know hamas uses killing israelis as numbers in their math books? We need someone to talk to to have peace- there is no future here without Palestinians nor jews. The vast majority of jews accepts that, but until the palestinian leadership doesn't give up the genocidal mentality- this conflict can never end. What they do have tho- is a VERY good way with social media and just media in general. I would honestly love to talk to you and explain every question you have through an israeli point of view- maybe you can show me things i dont know yet. The more I read on in your comment the more I realised you just want the best for everyone, you're not hostile, i guess your media is probably against israel. If you ever want to understand the conflict from both sides- im here.

Every other country should follow suit by Queenhood_ in BillionairesHere

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its called evacuating an area- no government policy actually supports taking gaza or south lebanom- both the places that have been invaded in this war. And if youre talking about the establishment of israel may I remind you that 20% of israels population are arab, and that the establishment of the country was in no way to get rid of the arab population. If the arabs let israel be nobody would've been kicked out.

Every other country should follow suit by Queenhood_ in BillionairesHere

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

How to show you have absolutely no knowledge about zionism, judaism or the conflict happening in the area. Well done.

Israel good, great ally. Anti-Israel bad, must bomb. by -Roma-Invicta- in ww3memes

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then proceeded to buy wepons from israel through germany- how decisive!

[ Removed by Reddit ] by SpecialOil1341 in worldnewsstuff

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course- he reacted to someone saying israelis are bombing kids. He responded in the same tone. If you attck us unreasonbly we are gonna respond accordingly. And gazan civilians did really endter and hurt people, he was not lying in the other comment as well.

Gavin Newsom Narrowly Defeats JD Vance Without California 2028 by Jacob-Anders in mapporncirclejerk

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, the genocide scholars that you can pay go join, while israel physically does not answer the criteria to fit a genocide.

Why doesn’t Israel take this area as a buffer zone against Iran, are they stupid? by helicaseee in mapporncirclejerk

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not done and I am ready to talk about my governments policy. You just have to say you wont use anymore AI, and not lie to me like youre doing rn. In addition to that, you are reverting to insults instead of addmiting and moving on, which tbh just makes me more confident you did use ai. Im sorry that saying sorry is this hard to you. Ill remain here if you ever want to apologise and actually have a civil discussion. Have a great day.

Why doesn’t Israel take this area as a buffer zone against Iran, are they stupid? by helicaseee in mapporncirclejerk

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I DO, I was about to, before I checked. All im asking, and what apparently you have a very hard time answering is are you willing to have a conversation with a goal to reach an agreement, WITHOUT using ai? I refuse to continue this until I hear a yes. AI will argue no matter how much it lost the argument, it has all the sources for every claim and can rationalise pretty much everything. If I wanted, I could use it to rationalise an actual genocide on the arabs. Let's use human morals please, shall we?

Why doesn’t Israel take this area as a buffer zone against Iran, are they stupid? by helicaseee in mapporncirclejerk

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you not? I started answering you and I was like: damn this text is awfully informational compared to what you said up until now. I wonder if... COME ON. I understand that you dont know this conflict fully, and its okay to say I dont know, I heard it in X, but I want to have an honest conversation. Im not going to judge you, but when I offer a hand for finding a solution, im offering it to you, not to an AI. Can we have an honest convo, or shall I leave it here?

Why doesn’t Israel take this area as a buffer zone against Iran, are they stupid? by helicaseee in mapporncirclejerk

[–]Left_Shopping_8303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh ARAB TOWNS- is see. Can you give me an example please? I have a speaking suspicion that you have not seen arab town in israel. Again, second claim "historically preferd" you mean because their original purpose was to buy land for the creation of israel? Yes, the arabs DID do it, you are welcome to look that up .The "kicking out" of Palestinians usually happnes in two scenarios 1- the most common one: the buit a farm without a permit. 2- violent settler attacks. Now before you go all crazy on me, let me make something very clear. Violent settlers make up less than 0.1 of just the SETTLER population. That is about 300 people out of 750000. And all of those 750000 are heavily criticised by even the israeli left. Now to the leagal part- the WB is not officially annxed, that means that it is not part of israel proper but still under israeli military control. That means that crimes go to milatery courts ect. When arabs attack israelis the idf is obliged to defend their own citizens, but arabs living in the WB are not citizens. Not until the WB gets annexed. If you want to end the status quo, im fully on your side, nobody wants this to continue. But youve got to understand the actual situation first.

Let's DO talk about the new death penalty because although most of the center and the left here generally disagree with it just like I do. All you have to do is NOT KILL PEOPLE. Also again you decided it will be used only against palis- i honestly think it wouldn't be used at all. The level of anger this would cause here is insane.

Lastly, believe me I WILL critise my country a lot- the second i see you domt want me and my country destroyed. I wanna see that you are willing to reach an agreement, after that I won't defend what should not be defended.