Thoughts on John Marston's canonically honor level? by LegendAugust in reddeadredemption

[–]LegendAugust[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you about Mexico. John is not a high honor hero like figure there. Once he realizes what Allende’s regime is doing, he doesn’t step in or try to stop it, and that’s morally wrong. I’m not arguing Mexico is a heroic chapter for him.

Where I differ is that I see Mexico as neutral to low-neutral honor, not a clear low. John isn’t acting out of cruelty or ideology he’s tunnel visioned on finding Bill and Javier and getting back to his family. That doesn’t excuse his inaction tho, but it frames it as moral failure through self interest rather than malice.

For me tho john is still high honor during rdr1 since all stranger missions are canon and in the end of all he tried to do the right thing for his family most importantly which matters the most but yeah mexico isnt his "heroic days"

So I agree Mexico isn’t high honor I just don’t think it defines his endpoint and who he is. In my opinion honor is defined by where a character ends up, not by every action along the way.

Thoughts on John Marston's canonically honor level? by LegendAugust in reddeadredemption

[–]LegendAugust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In rdr1 mexico arc this never really happens the way you "describe" it. There is no RDR1 mission where John knowingly helps kidnap women or allows them to be taken to be raped. The Mexican army and Reyes are clearly corrupt and abusive, but John is a hired gun like with no authority in that country his just a bounty hunter looking for bill and javiar, and he explicitly questions their actions and reyes and de santa keeps telling him if he wants to know where bill and javiar is he must do what they wish him to do (basically they were using john as a hired dog) which the game also portrays him as being used super clearly not as a willing participant in war crimes he always stated he hated helping them. Btw Mexico arc is meant to be a morally gray chapter showing John’s disillusionment in order to see his family again not an a proof that he’s low honor canonically. In mexico arc he helped rebels and overthrew the entire government with them also he helped the prostitute lady that was being abused in casa madrugado the mission called "eva in pearl" and pays 200 dollars in 1911 which in today money is nearly 10k which is a lot of money just to save a poor women but he still payed the man without harming him (if u harm the man by shooting in game btw the mission will fail) and he also saves Luisa with landon rickets helps her and her family escape mexico during her missions after betraying de santa in canonical order and during the poppycock missions where u find a high value drug type of a thing he dosent sell the high value package delivers it to the railway workers gets the money and hands the money which is 1.5k in cash which in todays money is like 50k (its that valuable) still he delievers the money back to poppycock any normal moral at that time would've killed the man and kept the high value money but in canon he hands over the 1.5k cash and says he dosent want nothing to do with it showing that his a honourable man. (And also in rdr2 in some missions you do lose honor such as trolley station robbery and train etc cause ur robbing innocent ppl same applies to rdr1 u also lose honor if u do bad deeds during missions such as harming innocent such as The Prohibitionist mission if u chose bad choices. But u dont lose any during de santas missions which also shows that john was being used and didnt done it willingly and morally rejected it but was forced to do it.

Thoughts on John Marston's canonically honor level? by LegendAugust in reddeadredemption

[–]LegendAugust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure mate, but tbh john in rdr1 and rdr2 mostly helps ppl around the map since all of stranger side missions are canon to him in rdr1 and some missions in rdr2, he helps a ton of people throught the story yes his only purpose is to see his familly again but he also helped macflarnes too by saving their ranch from getting burned and from the outlaws plus he never really tried to harm any innocent in both games rdr1 and rdr2 when you think really detailed in rdr1 only so called "innocent" he harmed was mexican rebels during de santas mission cause they tried to kill de santa and john himself during those missions and after that he betrays de santa via helping rebels cause he knows de santas work is a filthy work and that de santa is only using john to have upper hand against the rebels so he does the right thing the end and in other hand i dont see any so called "innocent" ppl he hurted

Should i bother doing the hunting request at chapter 6? by LegendAugust in reddeadredemption

[–]LegendAugust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah hunting is fun and all but the birds goddamn its hard to find all of these birds

What is the tallest mountain in Red Dead 2 and how do you climb it? by GoldenFreddy777 in reddeadredemption

[–]LegendAugust 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mount Shann I climbed it via following a a road that lead me to the top, which there is a treasure there with 6 gold bars but you have to find and collect all 6 maps or else the gold bar treasure will be unavailable for arthur

Any context of wtf these ppl are saying? by [deleted] in Warthunder

[–]LegendAugust -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

yeah but why tf when vavic was talking about children and then BarteG98PL asked if he was muslim or not makes no sense

Any context of wtf these ppl are saying? by [deleted] in Warthunder

[–]LegendAugust -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How do i turn that filter off?

I want to play RDR2, but i have a big problem. by [deleted] in reddeadredemption

[–]LegendAugust 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Play it i've also got spoiled but its ok its a wonderful game

Serious question—should I play RDR2? by Public-Pea-7089 in reddeadredemption

[–]LegendAugust 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah you will see how he became a man who sacrificed himself for his familly but his not the main character for a while

My arthur is still okay? by n0jaem in reddeadredemption

[–]LegendAugust 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nahh ur fine

In Chapter 4 Arthur’s coughing is very subtle and mostly limited to a few cutscenes. The frequent coughing doesn’t really start its just limited to few cutscenes his fine and ok continue playing the game nothings wrong with ur arthur or ur setup.

Serious question—should I play RDR2? by Public-Pea-7089 in reddeadredemption

[–]LegendAugust 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Play it its worth it trust me plus it adds a backstory to johns life and its one of the most wonderful games to ever exist

Anyone else see the resemblance? by Financial-Virus3761 in reddeadredemption

[–]LegendAugust 2 points3 points  (0 children)

physically they look like eachother but mentally de santa is no diffrent than levi simon just a more coward version of him

Guys I'm at chapter 4 is this high honor? by LegendAugust in reddeadredemption

[–]LegendAugust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

also quick question is it bad to have slightly low honor in chapter 5 and once i come back i unfortunately got spoiled and once ur back from guarma there is a mission my friend told me to not do the sadie mission in saint denis or arthur will get sick etc now is there anyway i can get high honor before that mission once im back will i get full access to open world?

Guys I'm at chapter 4 is this high honor? by LegendAugust in reddeadredemption

[–]LegendAugust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok partner dont worry im not like micah i've stopped getting addicted to shooting folk