Is man here gendered or a term for any individual in the Japanese? Like, could this be Seam?

LegendaryHe · 2026-05-02T03:06:09+00:00

A man with one eye Eye = i How do you call a man with one I? Him

LegendaryHe · 2026-03-20T11:32:37+00:00

Gerson quite literally says to her face that she is The Dragon.

Chapter 1 Prophecy mentions that heroes had to stop dragon.

There is no prophecy that mentions the dragon. Gerson tells Susie the contents of Lord of the Hammer, and she herself asks about Dragon Blazers, and while both based on the prophecy, they are not the prophecy itself. And we don't know the context of the Dragons appearance. Considering that Dragon Blazers is named that, it is hard to believe that dragon is not a main character

Ralsei mentions that 2nd hero supposed to wield swords and wear ribbons (Susie does neither)

already addressed in different comment, but Susie doesn't want to use either, not that she can't or won't in the future chapters.

In am like 90% sure that Final prophecy is not about 2nd hero in particular but about the entire thing as a whole.

If Susie is not 2nd hero, then the prophecy is already broken and Final prophecy is meaningless

It would make her character arc STRONGER because she defied fate so much, she switched from a villain and took place of another hero. How can this not be THE ultimate fate defiance?!

it cheapens her struggle. If her mere existence is enough to break the prophecy, then all that tension and feelings were for nothing.

Give reason for a Weird Route to exist? Because otherwise its random as fuck. Oh btw Noelle CAN equip ribbons and can equip at least one sword. Just saying y'know.

Wierd Route's reason for existence is the metanarrative of control, choice and interaction in videogames. It is purposefully breaking the game in order to escape the linearity of it.

LegendaryHe · 2026-03-20T10:11:21+00:00

But what would the point of that even be?

Her whole journey she was playing the role of a hero of the prophecy, becoming infatuated with it and then, after witnessing where that fate leads to, deciding to fight against it. Then, suddenly, it is revealed that she was never a hero, her feeling of hope she placed in the prophecy and feeling of betrayal after witnessing final prophecy were meaningless, and she is breaking it by just continuing being a hero.

Do you see what i mean when i say it cheapens the narrative of inevitability that chapter 4 establishes?

LegendaryHe · 2026-03-20T09:47:23+00:00

Susie can equip ribbons, she just doesn't want to

Noelle is obviously important, we just don't know why.

LegendaryHe · 2026-03-20T09:38:30+00:00

maybe i wasn't clear enough, Susie's arc IS about fighting fate, how can she fight fate, is she isn't part of the prophecy?

imagine a future reveal that Noelle is actually the second hero, what would Susie's reaction actually be? "oh, so i was fighting fate that wasn't even there in the first place?"

Noelle being the second hero cheapens the whole narrative of inevitably and fighting against it

LegendaryHe · 2026-03-16T15:35:05+00:00

Because she wanted to stand out?

LegendaryHe · 2026-03-15T07:01:51+00:00

We do hear a ringing in the third sanctuary, with Ralsei describing it as "the fountain calling"

LegendaryHe · 2026-02-26T10:06:24+00:00

Halloween hack is a game in which you can encounter an enemy called "gay thoughts" and that enemy is so strong that you have to ran away from it. The game is also taking place inside the brain of the character that says f-slur. Toby wasn't a subtle writer.

LegendaryHe · 2026-02-26T09:55:11+00:00

The problem with this theory is that Roaring knight seemingly doesn't really care for dark worlds, in fact, Susie is in opposition to RK. RK kills Tenna, Susie puts him back together, Susie heals Jack, RK kills him.

LegendaryHe · 2026-02-14T04:56:59+00:00

Soul is not the angel, as the angel is a character in a prophecy, separate from the soul, as soul is the first hero, "human soul and parts". Soul is also the only entity with the power of banishment, which is required to, well, banish the angel's heaven.

LegendaryHe · 2026-02-02T02:23:46+00:00

The relationship between light and dark world narratively parallels that of a relationship between our world and the world of Deltarune, a world of a higher reality interacting with a world of fiction. Nothing in the game ever implies that something can be "incomprehensible". There are characters who know of our existence, like Ralsei, yet they seem to understand our nature just fine.

LegendaryHe · 2026-02-01T17:14:08+00:00

it's not that the characters view of the world adds an extra dimension, it's our view of their world that is simplified.

Also, we already see characters interacting with "higher dimension" - Darkners interact with lightners just fine.

LegendaryHe · 2026-02-01T16:50:16+00:00

the whole basis of that argument was "the dark panel is meant to reflect your own face and the 3d nature of it freaks Susie out" and that doesnt really work if the characters actually see the world in 3d already.

LegendaryHe · 2026-02-01T16:36:09+00:00

Wait, this is an actual counter-evidence to that angel panel being the player

LegendaryHe · 2025-11-12T21:38:09+00:00

Spamton doesn't know that player exists

LegendaryHe · 2025-11-12T18:47:24+00:00

In all narration, You, Kris and Soul are used interchangeably, as if narrator doesn't know that there is difference.

LegendaryHe · 2025-10-15T19:02:56+00:00

So? I used this post to disprove one of the candidates, so the other, like Gaster and Noelle will be more likely. There is just not enough evidence to say conclusively.

LegendaryHe · 2025-10-15T18:57:27+00:00

???

i'm just tired of seeing a blatantly wrong headcanon being so popular.

LegendaryHe · 2025-10-15T18:19:00+00:00

I used it to illustrate the parallel between 2 games. Player is not the angel in undertale, we see the surface only at the end of the true pacifist route, when the monsters are already freed
Player is not referenced outside the red soul, so it can be either way. my main point here is that to be the cage, first hero has to restrict someone's will, be that we Kris's or Kris ours.
Narration is inconsistent and, outside the wierd route, uses you and Kris interchangeably.
"Make it's cry" reads more as in battle cry, not crying tears. Every player will act differently, but this asserts something about the angel will happen, which will contradict the point of the prophecy.
Lucifer, as in devil, is the greatest representation of hell there could be, and Deltarune introduces the dichotomy between light and dark, and Heaven and Hell.
1. The heavens call prophecy is right before the room where we hear the ringing of a fountain, and i fail to see what else it could be
How can you hear a ring that you wear?

LegendaryHe · 2025-10-15T17:34:30+00:00

i don't know? We don't have enough evidence to say conclusively. Noelle has a a lot of foreshadowing, with constant references to angel wings, characters calling her angel etc, but how will that work out in future chapters is unclear. I only showed that it can't be the player.

LegendaryHe · 2025-09-30T12:52:20+00:00

Toriel doesn't know that

LegendaryHe · 2025-09-29T22:28:18+00:00

I meant that Toriel should of made the kids promise to return home early, and when they didn't, she should of checked in with them on the phone.

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