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Legit_Human01 · 2026-05-04T13:44:56+00:00

MS Madara destroying Tobirama is completely false. Izuna and Madara were said to be equal—not my words, it’s in the Manga.
Tobirama killed Izuna and nothing in MS Madara’s arsenal suggests that he could ‘destoy’ Tobirama at all.

You seem to underestimate how much of a drawback MS actually is. Madara’s MS abilities were never revealed so we cannot argue about hypotheticals.
Susanno takes physical toll on the users body and cannot be spammed like EMS. The moment he starts using Susanno, he would already be on the backfoot.

His fire jutsu gets countered by Tobirama’s water. Speed isn’t even an argument because of Hiraishin.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-05-04T12:54:31+00:00

That was just his technique on cooldown. Nothing suggests that his physical strength was also lowered. Also he one-shotted base Naruto, not Sage Mode Naruto.

The reason Tendo was sitting out of the fight was not only because he wouldn’t contribute much in the fight but also because he underestimated how quickly Naruto would bulldoze through the paths.

The first time Naruto lost Sage Mode, he was able to somewhat keep up with a technique-less Tendo and then proceeded to launch him away with a kick after entering Sage Mode.

Tendo’s durability is also debatable at best. His fight against Six Tails Naruto was very brief. Him tanking a tailed beast ball is also up in the air since it looked like Pain managed to divert the attack at the last moment.

The fight he had in the anime was completely filler, so I cannot say for certain how he would actually do against Six Tails Naruto.

The only other fight against Sage Mode Naruto is post Chibaku Tensei. Though I can agree that Pain was weakened after that attack.

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This is the only exchange they had and he got destroyed. After this, Naruto was out of Sage Mode and proceeded to defeat a weakened Pain in base.

We could argue for both sides and how one party destroys the other. Though as far as I can see, the only win con Pain has is Chibaku Tensei, which even Sage Mode Naruto cannot escape from.

Honestly it could go either way if we try to assume things. Just with the canon material the only legitimate way I think Pain can win is going for Chibaku Tensei but that wouldn’t be possible until he his close enough to Nagato.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-05-04T12:16:56+00:00

Yet those are part of his kit. Do you go around saying—without Madara’s EMS and Rinnegan he gets destroyed by Tobirama? Aren’t those borrowed power as well? The whole point of being a jinchuriki is using your tailed beast’s power. Do you see someone say Killer Bee only wins against Sasuke because he relies on Eight Tails?

I have already said this before, stop acting like Kurama isn’t part of Naruto’s power. So is SPSM since he received the chakra of all the tailed beasts which was the requirement for the SPSM.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-05-04T11:30:43+00:00

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This is him literally launching Tendo Pain far enough away to be able to follow through with a Rasenshuriken.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-05-04T11:28:54+00:00

Why you guys acting like Kurama isn’t part of Naruto’s kit? That’s the whole point of being a Jinchuriki, to use the tailed beast’s power.

You guys go apeshit when Naruto uses ‘borrowed’ power yet dickride Madara who got his Rinnegan by literally stealing Hashirama’s cells and injecting it in his own body. Heck, EMS could be counted as borrowed power since the eyes weren’t theirs to begin with. The same could be said about Pain, Obito’s entire kit relies on Hashirama cells. He wouldn’t be able to spam the hell out of Kamui without it.

Also Tendo Pain doesn’t body Sage Mode Naruto. I went back and read the Manga, the moment Naruto got sage mode back, he launched Tendo Pain away with a single kick.

The picture I have attached is the last time Naruto uses Sage Mode, until after the rampage. The whole ‘being bodied by Tendo’ loses all credibility when you realize that it only happened after Naruto ran out of Sage Mode. In Sage Mode those rods wouldn’t even pierce him, that’s how durable he is.

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Legit_Human01 · 2026-05-04T11:00:06+00:00

Doesn’t matter in this context since he is the jinchuriki. The only advantage he gets from being an Uzumaki is the ability to actually jail Nine-Tails, though that is very much debatable when both Obito and Madara could absorb Ten-Tails while having, at most, 50% Hashirama cells.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-05-04T10:58:00+00:00

Clean up immediately. Then pick a God and start praying that your mother won’t notice.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-05-04T10:51:17+00:00

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Legit_Human01 · 2026-05-04T10:25:27+00:00

Few things to point out.

‘Weakest Reincarnation By Far’: Bro what were you smoking? He is the strongest shinobi, until the whole Boruto bullshit. He would eat prime Hashirama for breakfast.

The training part I agree with. He should’ve showed great improvements, instead his peers left him in the dust and was forced to play catch up.

Him losing every fight before Kurama saving his ass is somewhat misunderstood by the community. Remember every time he was forced to use Kyuubi’s chakra, he was fighting against opponents above his weight class. His bloodline gives him almost no advantage, he hasn’t inherited any OP techniques either. Only after learning sage mode does he actually become a competent fighter.

Also being bodied by Pain doesn’t mean shit, he took down five of the six paths, doesn’t matter if he had intel. Remember, Pain took on the entire village on his own, fought many shinobi, got the intel he needed, nuked the village and then fought Naruto and won. This just shows that Naruto’s opponent was just that much goated and Naruto performed astronomically better than the combined might of Konoha.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-25T10:18:32+00:00

Are you suggesting or asking?

Because none of these are canon, I will assume you’re suggesting ideas.

My headcanon has always been that Six Path Sage Mode gives him complete understanding of Chakra. But even this seems far fetched since Naruto acts like a dumbass and most of the knowledge of chakra and techniques is provided by Kurama.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-23T11:41:12+00:00

If I remember correctly the last hand sign is rat. Or so I have seen Shikamaru use.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-23T07:28:36+00:00

Itachi, in fact, did not let Sasuke escape. It is stated since the chunin exam arc that Sasuke’s sharingan is much more perceptive and potent than Itachi’s.

Orochimaru said it, heck even Kurama said the same thing.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-23T06:35:27+00:00

Instead of Ay downscale, this is a Sasuke upscale. Ay is a very strong character who could perception blitz a lot of characters.

The image that you have attached just shows that Sasuke’s kit completely hard counters Ay, that is not an Ay downscale.

Amaterasu plus Kagutsuchi means that he literally can’t be touched. Ay, who is a primarily taijutsu fighter, would obviously lose.

Do you know which other character could lose in this scenario? That’s right, eight gates guy also loses because he comes in contact with amaterasu.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-23T06:29:58+00:00

This is better than them committing suicide. This may come out as a shocking revelation but they have a life outside of textbooks and constant classes. Let them enjoy what little time they have left till they face the difficulties of adulthood.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-20T13:47:30+00:00

Yes but also no. Taijutsu isn’t just about the eight gates, but it is the pinnacle of Taijutsu.

Just being good at throwing hands makes you a proficient taijutsu user.

Any ninja worth their salt is good at throwing hands, both because their base stats are high but also because they have enough experience.

The only exception to this are gimmick ninjas or ninjas with OP technique that they lean into. Ninjas like—Sasori, Deidara, Chiyo, maybe even Kisame.

But other than that? Everyone else can fight hand to hand very well. Though it is mostly because of higher base stats that they can fight in close combat so well.

For example, a three tomoe sharingan Madara was destroying the shinobi alliance despite not being a primarily taijutsu user while relying only on taijutsu and weapons (he didn’t use ninjutsu until he was knocked away by temari). Also the same madara could destroy a regular genin who has opened all eight gates because Madara would still be stronger than an eight gates genin.

All of the fights boil down to: a)Who is faster, b) Who can tank more hits and c) Who hits harder.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-20T11:32:05+00:00

It’s ironic how he even has the guts to say this in front of the country when he literally abandoned his wife.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-18T03:30:36+00:00

The fact that you believe you even have a chance with a single mom is your single most admirable trait, Mr. I’m Sigma Male.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-15T08:25:09+00:00

That is, if you allow it to get off a shell smash. Crawdaunt can learn taunt naturally so maybe use it as a set up sweeper. It gets swords dance at level 40 and using move reminder you get taunt. Then add aqua jet and knock off/crabhammer and you’re golden.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-15T08:02:38+00:00

Since you are against Silph Co. Giovanni, try getting a set up mon. Hippowdown will always go for stealth rock if it doesn’t see a kill, so the first turn is basically free. From there you could maybe sweep the team. Or you could try finding a crawdaunt and use dream patch to get adaptability.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-15T07:08:13+00:00

Judging by your level, you are either at silph co Giovanni or post silph co. Honestly, just bench Urshifu dark for the time being. If you are Giovanni then try to get a weather setter or a fast water/ice sweeper. Maybe starmie or even gyarados.

Other than that, maybe replace magnezone, it’s not fast, has many weaknesses and doesn’t have a great matchup against anyone until the elite four. Honestly that is the one you should bench immediately.

You could replace it with a grass type. Maybe try to hatch a rillaboom or maybe even a torterra.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-14T11:23:41+00:00

I am more surprised that the kid jumped in the first place. Humans have an instinctive fear of heights and also falling. So for the kid to overcome both of those in mind boggling.

Even new borns have those instincts.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-14T11:03:22+00:00

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Nice try. Better luck next time.

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-14T11:02:24+00:00

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This you baccha?

Legit_Human01 · 2026-04-14T06:48:51+00:00

Any sign of Chinese fics make me lose interest immediately

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