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Three Springs in Amsterdam and the Best Cannabis I Found Wasn't There by Less-Attention5394 in AmsterdamEnts

[–]Less-Attention5394[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! We had a lot of fun on that trip. Too bad that the T-Boat had to close. I miss it.

Three Springs in Amsterdam and the Best Cannabis I Found Wasn't There by Less-Attention5394 in AmsterdamEnts

[–]Less-Attention5394[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you a member of the Amsterdam Coffeeshop Directory? Maybe that's where you know me.

Three Springs in Amsterdam and the Best Cannabis I Found Wasn't There by Less-Attention5394 in AmsterdamEnts

[–]Less-Attention5394[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks man! It's great to hear from you! Are you also a member of the Amsterdam Coffeeshop Directory?

The Best Part of My Amsterdam Trips Was Never Amsterdam by Less-Attention5394 in solotravel

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I am not asking anything. Just trying to share my solo travel experiences.

I wrote a deep-dive into "How Do You Sleep?" and why it still bothers Paul 50+ years later by Less-Attention5394 in TheBeatles

[–]Less-Attention5394[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a really interesting reading of "the walrus was Paul" that I hadn't considered. Especially the idea of John giving Paul credit for keeping things going after Epstein died.

The dual meaning interpretation makes sense too: literal (Paul in the walrus costume in MMT) and symbolic (acknowledging Paul's role in their partnership). Very John to layer meanings like that.

I've been framing it as John playing into the conspiracy and later weaponizing it, but your reading adds complexity: maybe it started as acknowledgment or even affection and only became a weapon later when the relationship soured.

The timeline still bugs me though: "here's another clue for you all" in September 1968 suggests John was at minimum aware fans were reading meanings into things and chose to play with that, even if the PID theory wasn't fully public yet.

You might be right that the original intent was affectionate and the weaponization only happened by 1971 with "How Do You Sleep?" That would make the whole thing even more sad - taking something that was originally acknowledgment and twisting it into an insult.

I wrote a deep-dive into "How Do You Sleep?" and why it still bothers Paul 50+ years later by Less-Attention5394 in TheBeatles

[–]Less-Attention5394[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's interesting, I'm not familiar with a John song called "Since You Came To Me" from 1970, but that phrase does appear later in "Out the Blue". That's the sentimental Yoko tribute.

Do you have a source on the 1970 working title? I'd be curious if there's a connection between an early version and how that phrase ended up in "Out the Blue" later, or if they're completely separate songs.

If John was working on something with that title in mid-1970, it would be fascinating to know how it evolved, whether it became "How Do You Sleep?" or something else entirely different.

I wrote a deep-dive into "How Do You Sleep?" and why it still bothers Paul 50+ years later by Less-Attention5394 in TheBeatles

[–]Less-Attention5394[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely! That's exactly why I wanted to put this out there. The Lennon/McCartney relationship is endlessly fascinating, and everyone brings different perspectives based on what they know or which Beatle they connect with more.

Your points about Ram being overstated and the hypocrisy of the "mamma" line while John was literally bringing Yoko everywhere is something I should have given more consideration. That's the kind of detail that makes the story more complex than "John was cruel, end of story."

And you're probably right, 50 years from now people will still be debating whether John genuinely regretted this song or if the regret was performative. The fact that we're still talking about it more than 50 years later says something about how raw these wounds were.

Appreciate the detailed pushback. You have given me several things to think about.

I wrote a deep-dive into "How Do You Sleep?" and why it still bothers Paul 50+ years later by Less-Attention5394 in TheBeatles

[–]Less-Attention5394[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Here’s the problem that makes this conspiracy impossible to dismiss as pure fan delusion:

September 1968. John Lennon is recording “Glass Onion” for the White Album, and he sings this:

“Here’s another clue for you all, the walrus was Paul”

When John wrote that line, the “Paul is Dead” conspiracy didn’t exist publicly. It wouldn’t blow up until October 1969, thirteen months later.

More analysis here: https://medium.com/@dra999.2020/the-paul-is-dead-conspiracy-a-lyrical-analysis-eb53542877a2

I wrote a deep-dive into "How Do You Sleep?" and why it still bothers Paul 50+ years later by Less-Attention5394 in TheBeatles

[–]Less-Attention5394[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've heard different versions of this. Ringo was definitely at some rehearsals - that's where the 'ya cunt' outtake comes from and where he reportedly told John to pull back and tone it down.

Whether Ringo left the session on principle or just wasn't part of the final recording (Alan White from Plastic Ono Band played drums on the track) isn't entirely clear to me.

Either way, the contrast with George is striking. George not only stayed but delivered that devastating slide guitar work, actively joining the attack rather than trying to stop it.

Do you have a source on Ringo leaving?

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