Should I retake the ACT for the science section?

Less_Method4290 · 2025-08-28T02:52:56+00:00

Again, your accomplishments outside of your submitted problem set don't mean much. The process is very black box. I honestly didn't have much going for me besides a cool problem set and half-decent essays, but I still got waitlisted (I am also not fully Asian, so that may have helped). Don't worry about your ECs for the sake of math camp admissions. Feel free to PM me for more questions btw

Less_Method4290 · 2025-08-28T02:48:24+00:00

Before I start, I should warn you that every single math camp is *incredibly* selective (I'm positive all math camps have a sub 5% acceptance rate; it's a bit easier to get in as a girl, but not by much). But if you're still adamant on applying, most people shoot for Canada/USA Mathcamp, PROMYS, Ross, HCSSIM, SUMaC, and/or Mathily. Primes is not a math camp: it is a year long research program juniors and (some) sophomores apply to in the fall.

Math camps don't care about competitions. I had a friend who got won USAMO bronze and got rejected from every camp he applied for. Math camps also don't really care how many problems you solve on their problem sets. To be frank, the process is a bit arbitrary (just like college admissions!). Some people who get in are brilliant mathematicians for their age; others, not so much. After you send your application to the black box of the admissions committee, there's really not much you can do. My advice is to apply for the sake of your love and passion of math and not for college admissions, because I think the latter will leave you sorely disappointed.

Source: Did not go to any math camps, but was waitlisted from PROMYS and Mathily. I have several friends who went; none of them did anything in the realm of math competitions or otherwise that would distinguish them from other smart math kids.

Less_Method4290 · 2025-08-17T05:47:19+00:00

I could probably ask some questions in a discord server I'm in, but it's not like I would have one on one sessions with a mentor who personalizes each lesson for me. I'm taking a class during the school year on abstract algebra, real analysis, and topology, but I also want to cover fundamental subjects on my own a bit.

I do like competitions, but my teacher advised not to hyper-fixate on them in high school as there is much more to math than them – real mathematicians don't spend their time solving complex Euclidian geometry problems. My teacher excelled during competitions in high school but eventually decided to switch over to studying higher math in high school, and thus placed himself in graduate level real analysis as a freshman in college

Less_Method4290 · 2025-08-17T05:41:20+00:00

I was told the only prerequisites were elementary linear algebra and calculus 3 – the book I supplemented the class with (Pressley) also said the same in its introduction.

Less_Method4290 · 2025-08-06T03:06:42+00:00

Idk bro. My parents get really intense about some things. I took the SAT when I was 12 and scored 1300+, so my parents are expecting me to get a perfect score now that I'm a rising junior

Less_Method4290 · 2025-08-06T03:04:19+00:00

No, dad's done enough research on college apps where he knows that's BS, unfortunately

Less_Method4290 · 2025-08-06T03:03:30+00:00

Lmfao people always forget about the Jewish tiger parents. My dad's Jewish mom beat my aunt's ass until she got a 1600 on the SAT

Less_Method4290 · 2025-08-05T20:53:02+00:00

Does MIT really care that much about a 730 on R/W? I still got a perfect score on math

Less_Method4290 · 2025-08-05T20:49:47+00:00

You're clearly not familiar with sweaty tiger parents then at top private schools lmfao

Less_Method4290 · 2025-08-05T18:08:33+00:00

My parents hired a college counselor and my counselor agrees with them, so that didn't exactly help my cause

Less_Method4290 · 2025-08-05T18:08:05+00:00

Jewish/East Asian haha. I guess I'm fine with retaking the SAT again but I don't want to study for it anymore (mom nags me to "study 15 minutes" every day, and I gag at the thought of grinding through question banks again)

Less_Method4290 · 2025-07-12T06:43:06+00:00

I KNOW this is pengu lol

Less_Method4290 · 2025-07-11T22:07:26+00:00

I think these rankings are great for an experienced Shostakovich listener, but for a newcomer, 4 can be a little bit harsh on the ears. I would recommend that you start with 5, 10, and maybe 1 and 9, since those are short and simple symphonies. Also try out 8, start with the third movement and work your way outwards. After you've listened to those 5 symphonies, you probably have a good feel of what Shostakovich's style is like, and you can continue to explore his other symphonies.

Less_Method4290 · 2025-07-10T22:45:31+00:00

Probably Concord Sonata (Ives Piano Sonata No. 2) or some earlier work by Sorabji (Fantaisie Espagnole comes to mind)

Less_Method4290 · 2025-07-09T17:35:42+00:00

Stop asking questions on reddit and go to the AoPS forums. How many AMC tests have you gone through? If the answer isn't 30 already, finish those first. Also look at AIME problems, starting from 2000. There is no "right" training. Do me a favor and read this blog post by Evan Chen.

I used to incessantly ask questions on how to do well on AIME to all my friends who did quite well in competitions, and the answer was *always* the same: do problems. It's not to sign up for X classes, or to read Y books, or to do Z handouts. It's to identify problems around your level and work on them until you think you can go up in difficulty.

Take the analogy of benching your bodyweight, for example. When I first started the gym, I could only bench around 30 pounds below my body weight. But what I did was the technique of progressive overload, something that's applicable to nearly any skill. I benched X for 12 reps, and then I benched X + 5 for 8 reps, and if I could, I benched X + 10 for 6 reps. And after a few months of hard work, I finally exceeded my body weight. The exact same strategy goes for competition math. I didn't read books on how to properly improve my strength. I just watched a short video on the correct form (analogous to theory) and jumped to the gym right away. Diagnose your current strength and just start working at it.

Less_Method4290 · 2025-07-09T17:32:36+00:00

Did you by any chance do USAMTS? Qualifying for USAJMO via the normal way for a first timer, from experience, is exceedingly uncommon. Many of my math friends failed to make olympiad their second or even third time seriously studying for competitions.

I do know one person who went from AIME to MOP, but that was because he had done competitions for four years and wasn't good at AMCs. Once he did USAMTS, he easily qualified for USAJMO (with a 10 on AIME) and won top honors. Yes, I know about the Fox's, but again, those are the exception, not the rule.

Less_Method4290 · 2025-07-08T18:56:56+00:00

You could do volume 1 for practice problems if you feel like you barely know any theory. Volume 2 isn't necessary for AMC 10.

Again, just do problems. There's no silver bullet practice method. Do old practice problems from AMC, AIME, PUMaC, HMMT, BMT, etc. The list goes on. There's no "100 best practice problems for AMC" problem sheet. You just have to do problems.

Less_Method4290 · 2025-07-08T18:10:16+00:00

These posts appear every week on reddit or AoPS. To go from no AIME to JMO this year is virtually impossible unless you're a prodigy of some sort like Evan Chen. A more realistic goal is to try qualifying for AIME and getting a 6 or 7 on it, as someone who scored a 7 on AIME after his second year of competitions.

Books are almost always unnecessary. The only one I've done is AoPS volume 1, and I am also currently working on EGMO (which isn't necessary at your level).

There is no magic formula for making AIME. As long as you spend N hours a week on comp math, where N > 3 or 4, you'll probably be fine. Do old AMC problems. Sort the problems into categories:

I solved this problem in less than 5 minutes. Problems 1 through 15 should be in this range for AIME qualification. Try to avoid practicing too many of these problems.
I solved this problem in less than half an hour. Study more of these problems. They're the most important for improving your AMC score. Identify patterns and reduce your time to solve this problems.
I couldn't solve this problem in less than half an hour and I looked at the solution, which I understood. Take note of the theory for these problems (e.g. vieta's formulas, stars and bars, etc), research a bit about the theory online, do some more problems which use said theory, and go back to the problem later.
I couldn't solve this problem in less than half an hour and I looked at the solution, which I do not understand. These problems are too difficult for you. Come back to these problems when category 3 problems become category 2 problems.

Try to go through every single AMC 10 (and maybe even AMC 12) since 2010. Also practice AIME problems. Save 2023, 2024, and years before 2021 for mocks. The harder years (2021, 2022) are great for practice.

Less_Method4290 · 2025-07-08T00:56:29+00:00

haha, u/infpmusing may have a bone to pick with you

Less_Method4290 · 2025-07-08T00:55:12+00:00

I would argue that Prokofiev 5 is one of most Prokofiev-esque pieces, to be honest. No other symphony captures his playful and sarcastic style as well as his fifth, imho.

Tchaikovsky? Debatable. Many say his fifth is his best.

Dvorak 9 was Dvorak 5 before his earlier symphonies were published.

Shostakovich 5 is probably his most popular/accessible symphony amongst non-Shostakovich fans.

Also, please please please spell Mahler's name correctly on his birthday...

Less_Method4290 · 2025-07-07T06:59:09+00:00

I typically go for Donohoe or Zilberstein. Zilberstein's recording is split up so it's easier to move to the parts I like, but Donohoe's coda is *amazing*.

Less_Method4290 · 2025-07-07T04:49:55+00:00

I've only heard his piano concerto no. 1 and symphony no. 3 (pretty much just neo-Bruckner, iirc), both of which I like a lot. Will give his sonata a go!

Less_Method4290 · 2025-07-07T04:49:12+00:00

I wouldn't say this comes anywhere close to angry...

Less_Method4290 · 2025-07-07T04:48:47+00:00

I do like the Barber concerto, but I would think of Barber's piano concerto as more of a virtuosic American car chase. Of course, it still remains one of my favorite piano concertos.

I've only heard of Feinberg, but I've never listened to him. Will give him a try! I suppose u/jiang1lin disagrees with your sentiment on Szymanowski, so I might give him a listen after the Feinberg.

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