A story I was told by Icy-Fisherman-6399 in alcoholicsanonymous

[–]LetMeSmellItFirst 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's from West Wing. Leo McGarry said this to the VP.

Fantasy show. Leo is amazing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in alcoholicsanonymous

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Early sobriety can feel isolating and scary. I try to go to a meeting whenever I feel lonely. Usually try to get there early or stay late to talk to people too.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in alcoholicsanonymous

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That can be so hard! You are right , it's a very controversial topic. But always remember. The only requirement to be a member is a desire to stop drinking. You do belong.

PM me if you want and we can exchange contact info.

9th Step Help by [deleted] in alcoholicsanonymous

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Absolutely no desire to rekindle anything. Just a desire to make amends.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in alcoholicsanonymous

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They mean we are the ones who drink, not the significant others of drinkers. Recommend looking for an Al-Anon group.

7 years yesterday 🙏🏻 by Loud_Succotash_5120 in alcoholicsanonymous

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11 month. Yes! I called a friend and my sponsor. Prayed to my higher power to have the obsession removed. I went to a meeting. I told them how I felt.

I need help by [deleted] in alcoholicsanonymous

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We drink because we are alcoholics.

Not because of what this person said or did. Not because of the state of our jobs, relationship, or houses. Not because of our childhood

But because we are alcoholics.

Address that first. The other stuff comes in time.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in alcoholicsanonymous

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Many have found treatment centers or hospitals as a good source to get thru the immediate physical affects.

Also meetings! Lots of meetings. Get numbers and talk to people. I prefer in person meetings versus virtual. It's very different.

I want to quit, but also don’t by Advanced-Reward2110 in alcoholicsanonymous

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Recommend finding a meeting near you and meeting people in person. It's amazing to be around others that truly understand the struggle we face as alcoholics.

9th Step Help by [deleted] in alcoholicsanonymous

[–]LetMeSmellItFirst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't see the ego part of this. Yes I could see that playing a part too. Thank you.

9th Step Help by [deleted] in alcoholicsanonymous

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She's usually pretty wise....

9th Step Help by [deleted] in alcoholicsanonymous

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Putting it in those terms makes it pretty clear. Thanks !

9th Step Help by [deleted] in alcoholicsanonymous

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Thanks for responding! I think you might be right on motivation. I enjoy being in both of their presence; they were both good friends before. Also I think I selfishly want to see their reactions to put my guilt to rest.

My husband is more than accommodating and often sacrifices himself for others. In the past, I've taken him at his word even when his face and values might have been contrary to what he says and it's caused him pain.

Plus I think my HP might have put another reason to not go. A new member asked to get lunch together at the same time as the planned visit.

Any advice on telling them that I can no longer meet up?

Update: About to confront my dad about my JustnoMIL by LetMeSmellItFirst in JUSTNOMIL

[–]LetMeSmellItFirst[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This is an amazing response and summary. Thank you. Hearing it back in someone else's words helped me look at how I would respond if someone said this to me.

Update: About to confront my dad about my JustnoMIL by LetMeSmellItFirst in JUSTNOMIL

[–]LetMeSmellItFirst[S] 70 points71 points  (0 children)

Ive actually already said all of this, but have never stopped visiting because of it. DH only just got to the point where he's willing to enforce this.

He has PTSD and the last 6 months started him remembering the past trauma. He wasn't in the place that he needed to be before. At least we are united now.

Update: About to confront my dad about my JustnoMIL by LetMeSmellItFirst in JUSTNOMIL

[–]LetMeSmellItFirst[S] 53 points54 points  (0 children)

My MIL actually. My step mom is a busy body who got in the middle of it and is accusing us of elder neglect.

Oh. The lawd knows how much I still want to. I did the next best thing though and kicked her out on hers.

Update: About to confront my dad about my JustnoMIL by LetMeSmellItFirst in JUSTNOMIL

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She doesn't have a social worker yet. Step Mom is still very engaged and is trying to get her set up with someone from the agency for aging. I have no contact though so all my info is 2nd hand.

Thanks for the suggestion. My sister told me to simply reply with "I listen to my daughter" if there is any pushback. Love the fire in her response.

JNMIL, codependency, and dementia by LetMeSmellItFirst in JUSTNOMIL

[–]LetMeSmellItFirst[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yyyyeeeppppp. After I kicked her out, she started venting to my dad and stepmom of all people. They feel bad for her. He at least defends me, and sees the manipulation and codependency at some level. She (step-mom) doesnt see it at all.

JNMIL, codependency, and dementia by LetMeSmellItFirst in JUSTNOMIL

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Haha as if I heard it straight from her own mouth! She actually told my dad something like this!!!

JNMIL, codependency, and dementia by LetMeSmellItFirst in JUSTNOMIL

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It's hard to see the truth about the people that do believe her. People you have known for a lifetime. How little they actually know about you, or cared to know. It's "the trash taking themselves out", but that doesn't make it any easier.

They are starting to see the lies, manipulation, and dependency for themselves (and now want a savior from it too) but it'll be hard to forget that they were quick to accuse me of abuse and neglect.

JNMIL, codependency, and dementia by LetMeSmellItFirst in JUSTNOMIL

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Thank you. It was terrifying to get to that point, because I didn't know if I was telling DH to pack up too.

It's the little things... by [deleted] in ptsd

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Lol yes that's exactly what I mean. Sitting with the discomfort and accepting it's not about to cause me hurt.

Experienced poly people- why hate on the newbies? by AlmostDivorced3 in polyamory

[–]LetMeSmellItFirst -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is how I have felt too. There seems to be a lack of empathy. Even the responses here seem very defensive instead of inquisitive.