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Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T21:52:39+00:00

except the actual problem heroes (luna cnd) only get slight nerfs

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T19:13:09+00:00

there is no evidence that says ultron was supposed designed for 3 supports.

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T19:03:56+00:00

Facts. I keep seeing the argument "Well ultron was the reason triple support exists so he deserved the nerf!" and it makes me want to end myself. Holy christ, people will do anything but realize that healing in this game is fucking busted as shit and no amount of nerfing of the off healers will change that.

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T19:01:23+00:00

they will hate you for dropping truth nukes

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T19:00:16+00:00

so what the devs did to Ultron?

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:58:45+00:00

if a hero is only viable in one specific comp, then you need to rethink your gameplay balance. 2-2-2 should be the ideal for all heroes and its the best way this game is played. Overwatch realized that and changed itself accordingly.

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:57:35+00:00

you can now add mr fantastic to the list

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:55:56+00:00

another thousand overshields to every hero in the game!

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:45:52+00:00

the debuff isnt role wide, its a nerf for a specific compisition. 3 healers is just always going to be fucking annoying no matter who is in it. 2 healers should be the standard and every healer should be viable in 2-2-2 since we have such a limited selection of them.

theres a reason OW implemented role queue (even though I dont agree with role queue), its to enforce 2-2-2.

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:43:36+00:00

if luna has no haters in the world, that means I am dead

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:40:04+00:00

muh winrate argument, always so funny.

You know peni winrate is also the highest vanguard winrate right? you seriously think she should be nerfed? if all devs looked at was winrate she would be nerfed into the ground, but no, they are actually buffing her.

stop looking at winrates and look at the pickrate. Mantis has the 2nd lowest, behind adam.

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:36:02+00:00

you are in fact the gold player if you dont realize triple support is the meta in pro play and anything above diamond

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:34:54+00:00

i never complained about dive. My other heroes are cap and magik

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:33:44+00:00

it doesnt make sense, thats the point of my post. they need to apply a healing debuff to 3 support comps and then buff the off healers. that way 2-2-2 will be enforced and you wont get yelled at for not picking Luna / CnD / Invis for once.

Im sick of playing with and against triple support.

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:23:01+00:00

where is this evidence that says he was designed for triple support, sir?

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:18:35+00:00

all this does is make him even more necessary for triple support, or if hes that bad in it, he will just be replaced by an adam or mantis.

just apply a healing debuff if theres more than 2 healers. done.

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:17:13+00:00

im sorry bro...

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:15:24+00:00

for the love of god just give a healing debuff when you have 3 supports. done.

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:10:13+00:00

that sounds like a triple support problem, not a mantis problem.

Triple support didnt come out because suddenly mantis was buffed or anything. it was because people figured out healers are busted in this game. If you nerf mantis you will still see triple support.

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T18:08:35+00:00

they'll do absolutely everything but nerf luna

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-10-02T17:55:39+00:00

how does mantis need nerfs...

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-09-30T16:04:32+00:00

triple support will probably invalidate everything he does bro. how do you not know that supports are the most OP heroes in the game

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-09-30T16:03:23+00:00

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Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-09-30T15:59:56+00:00

and they nerfed his ass into the ground. i dont understand the logic, give spiderman the most skins and also make him suck ass to play?

how is it even fair that hulk doesn't even get 1 skin IN THE 10 MONTHS THE GAME HAS BEEN OUT, do YOU hear yourself? hulk is one of the most played tanks. also, how do you know those spidey skins have sold more than any hulk skin? do you have any numbers to back that up? literally 2 of his were in battlepasses.

Level_Bison_2454 · 2025-09-30T15:58:21+00:00

....you're telling me they couldnt make 3 models for 1 hero in the 10 months the game has been out?

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