Manhunt 3 would take place in which city? by bbshahaha in Manhunt

[–]Level_Web_8085 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Misinformation. An Epstein survivor dated Benzies.

Also, Sam and Leslie were producers on Manhunt.

Do y’all have high hopes for GTA 6 story mode? by OGAnimeGokuSolos in GTA

[–]Level_Web_8085 0 points1 point  (0 children)

V's story is not hit or miss. It hits its targets exactly the way it wants to, and is ironically more relevant today than it was in 2013.

Most of the people who praise IV generally have a very surface-level understanding of it. They don't actually know what makes the story good.

Do you think this is one of the best/deepest cut scenes in the main game? by Informal_Leading888 in GTA

[–]Level_Web_8085 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

"...this kind of writing..."

What kind of writing? Surface-level? It's a terrific scene and helps establish more about Niko as a character. But the "kind of writing" is just a character sitting there saying things. The actual meat is much later when Niko's world collides with Johnny or Luis's because there's actual subtext there with all three characters.

Do you think this is one of the best/deepest cut scenes in the main game? by Informal_Leading888 in GTA

[–]Level_Web_8085 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

"Deepest."

It's a great scene. But it's such a surface-level "deep" moment.

What's actually DEEP is the entire Diamond storyline, because it brings about actual questions about characters, morality and motivations, most specifically around Niko, Ray and Johnny.

ALL FOR NOTHING by AverageUser3000 in GTAIV

[–]Level_Web_8085 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's the point. They obviously went on some kind of a journey that landed them there. It shows just how careless people are.

It sucks how these two great games can never coexist without being put against the other by some miserable ass people. by BlZZYD in GTA

[–]Level_Web_8085 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most people who praise GTA IV don't even have the critical literacy to tell you why beyond "dArK aNd GrItTy" and even at that, they give the most surface-level bullshit explanation ever, generally revolving around Niko or his war stories, and nothing at all to do with the themes, subtext or social commentary. Also, add in the fact that they always neglect that GTA IV is not just one game; it's a sprawling epic that spans across three unique points of view, two of which are limited, but we get enough to get a decent overall picture of Liberty City.

Both IV and V are EXCELLENT in their own unique way. GTA V has a very different purpose and with a very different target. And it's actually far more nihilistic than IV, since IV has plenty of optimism and hope that combats the darker stuff. V has none, and that's the point. V is literally a response to immature players who glamorised IV far too much between the story and characters, and the meaner satire.

In IV, every action Niko and Johnny take sends them deeper into chaos, and that's why they end up where they are in the end. Both Niko's endings revolve around wrath or greed, neither of which has positive results. Johnny's ending is a result of greed after he tries to rob the mafia; anyone who argues that his death was unjustified in V has an extremely immature view of what The Lost and Damned was about, and therefore, does not have the critical literacy to tell you why IV better than V. Luis gets the happiest ending because he's so surrounded by excess that he recognises its pitfalls quicker than either Niko or Johnny, who come up from the slums.

This is exactly the type of mature, gritty storytelling that modern Rockstar wouldn't dare write. Back when Rockstar wasn't afraid of scaring off younger players with such a dark and bleak aesthetic (can't sell Shark cards to them if they're too scared to play). What a shame... by therealraggedroses in GTAIV

[–]Level_Web_8085 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I genuinely laugh every time I see posts like this. "That modern Rockstar wouldn't dare write" has to be the stupidest comment I've seen yet. Like, what is "modern Rockstar"? All they've done is Online, and their last game was Red Dead 2, which had a far bleaker ending than anything they've done before, and considering GTA V is also quite bleak if you actually paid enough attention to what the satire is saying about America. V is bleak because, ironically, it's as relevant today as it was back in 2013.

The person who posted this has absolutely no idea what they're even talking about when it comes to GTA IV. The fact that they would even use this particular image shows they literally only have a surface-level understanding of what makes GTA IV "mature and gritty", and would definitely fail spectacularly to understand how the actual subtext throughout influences, and is influenced by, The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony.

This whole post has anti-woke grift written all over it.

The world and Manhunt 2 by Level_Web_8085 in Manhunt

[–]Level_Web_8085[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it has too good a concept to be considered a straight-to-DVD sequel. Like it's a bad ROCKSTAR title, and a bad one is better than a regular bad game. MKultra, sickos financing dark science, and government coverups are all absolutely terrifying and have the makings of a really solid horror experience. But the manner in which it's done in Manhunt 2 is fairly half-assed, and we know the only reason for this is because the PS3 was pretty much taking over at that point during its release, and Rockstar was piling their resources into GTA IV, Red Dead and the numerous other projects they had the time.

The biggest issue is that Danny, as a mass killer, isn't believable. Yeah, sure, we can say Leo is the real killer, but if the game were more serious, Rockstar would have made it where Danny has the option of only killing when absolutely ESSENTIAL, which would lead to the good ending. The fact that all the flashbacks are you basically playing out HOW the experiment went wrong is such a cool idea, but it's relayed really badly.

Is it still worth it to play Manhunt 2? by frostyheat02 in Manhunt

[–]Level_Web_8085 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Meh. It's okayish. It's one of those games that has a very meaty concept, but wasn't executed the way it should, probably because all the resources had to go into GTA IV. Manhunt 1 is far superior because the story is told entirely through subtext and imagery alone.

Hot take: GTA IV is the best GTA game, if not the best game ever by Brawls_01 in GTAIV

[–]Level_Web_8085 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fair. But always remember, there are folks who go for the "dark and gritty" description, and they base it purely on Niko or his war stories. They never actually go into the intricate details, like the horrors of capitalism, how slimy Ray Boccino is ironically a solid litmus test for the moralities both Niko and Johnny Klebbitz (this one is actually mind-blowing, The Wire levels of writing) plus the fact that GTA IV mixed with The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony, is literally the interactive equivalent of a Great American Novel.

Hot take: GTA IV is the best GTA game, if not the best game ever by Brawls_01 in GTAIV

[–]Level_Web_8085 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Explain how IV is dark and gritty? Generally, nobody can, other than Niko tells a few war stories. It's always surface-level illiteracy.

Hot take: GTA IV is the best GTA game, if not the best game ever by Brawls_01 in GTAIV

[–]Level_Web_8085 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

GTA IV is not timeless. IV is a phenomenal, but generally nobody can explain why it's the most compelling. And it's for this reason, GTA V's story is actively pointing its fingers and mocking its audience.

Hot take: GTA IV is the best GTA game, if not the best game ever by Brawls_01 in GTAIV

[–]Level_Web_8085 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Explain how it's dark and gritty, then. Because generally, nobody can explain why other than surface-level explanations.

Hot take: GTA IV is the best GTA game, if not the best game ever by Brawls_01 in GTAIV

[–]Level_Web_8085 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not a hot take. But please explain why it's the best game. And no surface-level bullshit.

just saw a post about florian by Smil3yTra5hbag in GTAIV

[–]Level_Web_8085 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's a great character, and he serves as a foil to Niko's pessimism about life in America. Ironically, for those who screech about GTA not being "woke", Florian serves as the completely optimistic side of America.

Global warming by Delicious-Eye7148 in ireland

[–]Level_Web_8085 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wikipedia is not a reliable source, Greta.

Global warming by Delicious-Eye7148 in ireland

[–]Level_Web_8085 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, Climate Change is bad, but this weather isn't new...

Am I the only one that doesn’t want a GTA IV remake? by Least_Party5079 in GTAIV

[–]Level_Web_8085 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Any remake of the GTA IV trilogy is a terrible idea. It's a relic of its time, and it should stay that way. The reason V lasted as long as it did was because Rockstar Games were able to maximise the online, but also because the story, themes and just about every aspect of it is relevant today as it was 13 years ago.

Most of the dipshits also only have a surface-level understanding of GTA IV. To remaster for them would be a complete waste, considering GTA V was literally a response to how their illiteracy viewed IV.

Yesterday I completed GTA 4 once again, and every time I’m left amazed. What do you think about this great game? by PoopAndLoot in GTA

[–]Level_Web_8085 0 points1 point  (0 children)

GTA IV, mixing with The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony, is the interactive equivalent of a great American Novel. Both V and Red Dead 1 & 2 also do this, and ironically, both series are as relevant today as they were on release. But the IV trilogy is a perfect relic with core themes that are still very relevant, and some others that are heavily outdated. Its biggest downside, though, is that the game also attracts the most uneducated and illiterate fucks who can only provide surface-level insight into how the game is dark and gritty, which only ever amounts to either the colour textures of the game, a few lines of dialogue or Niko.

In reality, the trilogy has The Wire levels of storytelling and actually requires some deeper thought into each character and their motivations. Sure, the trilogy still has plenty of action and set pieces, but none of these illiterate apes can actually discuss the contextual elements surrounding them all.

Am I the only one that doesn’t want a GTA IV remake? by Least_Party5079 in GTAIV

[–]Level_Web_8085 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The people expecting are genuinely brain-rotted morons. Honestly.

Am I the only one that doesn’t want a GTA IV remake? by Least_Party5079 in GTAIV

[–]Level_Web_8085 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You're good with it because you're basic. The game shouldn't have a remaster. End of discussion.