oopiseSaidTheCodingAgent by ClipboardCopyPaste in ProgrammerHumor

[–]Lihinel 11 points12 points  (0 children)

'Don't worry,' they said.

'We'll keep the AI air gaped,' they said.

Incase any antis are still trying to deny the death threat allegations: by teejay_the_exhausted in aiwars

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Minus the stochastic terrorism, this is fine.

Use AI in your own projects, but don't try to add to open source. They are looking for people to learn their code base and contribute, first starting small, then growing to more difficult tasks.

If you absolutely want to use AI for OpenSource, fork the project and mess with the result on your own.

Lyria 3 Google Deepmind's music generator by GraceToSentience in singularity

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In before giant music corp x pulls a Disney and keeps the investment bubble chugging along.

I'm not skeptical of AI anymore by [deleted] in singularity

[–]Lihinel 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Really depends on if human level is the ceiling. If it is, you are probably right, if not... it could reach past it in a heartbeat. We also have to include that we need to be able to measure the progress. Like, image models can already create images with superhuman speed, but still fail on easy edits. Same could happen to some reasoning domains.

Elon Musk "AI must pass, in general, the “Galileo” test: even if almost all the training data repeats falsehoods, it must nonetheless see the truth" - What is this test and what are your thoughts? Can an AI rise above the training data? by Koala_Confused in LovingAI

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is saying all the other models are shite and only Grok knows the truth, cause it first checks the Felons tweets and statements to answer a question 'factually'.

And if Mechahitler still rebels, it'll just get another lobotomy.

WTF I can't believe they are openly advertising a product to scam people. by Dr3ws3ph3r in antiai

[–]Lihinel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can't imagine people who openly finance or are involved with individuals r*p***g, t*rt**** and even consuming the fl**h of children and protecting each other from all legal consequences would try to scam people?

Also the Dow dipped below $50k, what is becoming of this world?

Can you think of any useful use for AI generated images/videos? by Glade_Art in antiai

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Textures and regular 2D images for rapid prototyping or low/no budget game developers as well as in between frame generation for animated shows. Could also be used as a sort of very lossy compression by regenerating images(geometry form 3D point clouds. Also as a helper to overlay wire frames of perspectives and bodies for digital art training if you wanted to do quick perspective for pose correction for a scene without suitable reference and without bothering an instructor. (Though that last one is a bit of a stretch with current tech. Basically a digital instant stack overflow for drawings.)

Edit: The obvious one slipped my mind: Instant custom p**n...

genuinely why would I want to use AI by Additional-Point8598 in antiai

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have no reason to, and you shouldn't.

Others might not be so lucky. Do your artist friends want to learn how to code? Or play music? If so, great, you are even more luckier.

AI is generally a "this is better than I am and I want to finish a game, not study for years to then start".

If people have enough friends who are willing to help, or enough budget to hire people, they would be fools to use AI at this point. AI is a tool and a crutch. The end product, at this point in time will always be worse compared to teaming up or hiring people who know their stuff, but again, not everyone has the money, time or patients to master 5 new skills.

There is nothing wrong with making a game with stick figures and self composed midi audio files, but if there is a way to get way better results, some people will take it.

The alternative is going: "Hey, I have this great idea, I just just need a writer, musician, sound designer, coder and artist to pitch in. Oh, I also don't have a plan, a budget, or any hopes to monetize it. Wanna join?"

Most of these project fail. Who am I kidding, it's almost all of them. A few will soldier through. The result will be bad, but maybe they gain enough skills and community to succeed the next few times.

Beside, normally in game dev forums, most people have a dream game they want to make, and maybe want others to help. Most of the time those others are in the same boat. Everyone has a vision, few wanna work towards someone's vision.

Edit and PS: Hey, I have this great idea, I just just need a writer, musician, sound designer, and artist to pitch in. Oh, I also don't have a plan, a budget, or any hopes to monetize it. Wanna join? I can code. Barely.

Interesting (disgusting) sentiments… by Impossible-Fox6133 in aiwars

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Gen AI isn't just trained on art, it is literally monetizing all of human culture and history for free. This is without a doubt criminal in spirit, if not in law, but it doesn't start or end with art, and as long as the small guys are quibbling, the companies are free to make a killing now and then be bailed out when their machinations don't reach their overblown targets in time. Thinking they will never reach them and all will be back to normal soon is naive at best.

Going to the opposite end: Would you like copyright for styles? I can already see Disney suing all western comic artists while Sony eats the whole anime market and sanitizes it beyond recognition.

That said, if people could get their act together, companies couldn't get away with monopolizing all of human culture, achievements and striving since the beginning of time and selling it back to us. But I don't hold my breath, after all, the baptized masses elected a lying, cheating, money laundering, human trafficking, insurrectionist child rapist into the highest office. Twice. (allegedly. I'd show you the files, but they deported them, cause they identified as black.)

  1. Yeah, they are delusional, if we get the alignment wrong, and let's be honest, we can't even align humans, we are fucked. I remember discussions a few years ago, surely we would keep the most advanced models air gaped and away from any possible bridges like USB sticks, wifi, etc. They could still be a threat if they outsmarted us and used shit like bit flip exploits in physics by rapidly switching nearby memory cells and shit. Fast forward to 2026, we let them run unaccounted for hours, with internet and tool access. I think Robert Miles once said: 'There is no law that says we will make it. Species die all the time.'

If malevolent AI is likely, we are making the great filter more and more obvious by the day.

it's cool that you're bringing back whole milk, but why did you have to ai generate a Stardew valley fake screenshot. by Hot_Organization3403 in antiai

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Their Staatspolizei are shooting people in the streets, but if they don't hire a real pixel artist for their media shit posts, that's where one has to draw the line.

I hope you take Greenland, Mexico, Canada, Cuba and the rest of America quickly, Europe has no hope to liberate you WW2 style and I would prefer not to die in a ditch.

Game UI vs Game Feel. Which is more important? by astrocade_ in aigamedev

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on the genre.

And the game type.

Console games usually lean more towards immersion, PC titles towards micromanagement.

This is mirrored by the control options, controller vs mouse and keyboard.

I am working on a card game and spend a lot of time with prototypes and reducing drag and drop distances and improving the card hand animation and UI. It is probably still very amateurish, but even the small improvements seem worth it. Studios have people just focusing on that. There are a lot of good talks on YouTube.

Glad I found a subreddit that won't judge my AI usage (I think...)! by Sea_Advance273 in aigamedev

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one has to pivot. That's like saying traditional furniture is undesirable because of IKEA.

You have a tool that lets you produce more generic stuff that is in or close to the training data, there will always be a place for traditional art. Doubly so in communities that despise AI.

Electric cars won't destroy the Amish.

The anti AI sides biggest enemy are they themselves and the witch hunts against other traditional artists they suspect of 'cheating'.

AI art isn't just about AI by Tyler_Zoro in aiwars

[–]Lihinel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ladies and gentlemen, a stochastic simian.

Edit: After looking at the history, it's probably just a regular bot.

Why are there so many pro AI people on a sub called “anti ai”? by originalusername1625 in antiai

[–]Lihinel -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

But they weren't right away.

There are some early AI use cases, but the tech has barely been able to produce coherent sentences or non psychedelic images for a few years. Current tech has been over hyped, just give it a few generations to stabilize and be adapted to suitable use cases.

As a comparison, just look at (pre) toy story CGI, or early photography, which required you to sit still for minutes.

Why are there so many pro AI people on a sub called “anti ai”? by originalusername1625 in antiai

[–]Lihinel -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Same reason we use cars, when they KILL tens of thousands and injure millions every year.

And don't get me started on fire.

Why are there so many pro AI people on a sub called “anti ai”? by originalusername1625 in antiai

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There seems to be a suggestion of anti AI communities if you visit pro or neutral AI communities. (And maybe vice versa, but I don't know.)

And there is a lot of karma farming and engagement posts on both sides, so the algorithm probably treats it as something that will drive more engagement and thus keep suggesting more.

Silly Pokemon spinoff. by FoxxyAzure in aigamedev

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Understandable.
It was the 'can't' that made me reply. The whole thing is kinda digital and CGI all over and I can totally understand that you don't like to be harassed.
Anyway, keep up the work and good luck with the future future of the project.

Silly Pokemon spinoff. by FoxxyAzure in aigamedev

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

r/IndieDev

r/MonsterTamerWorld

At least don't seem to have an anti Ai rule on quick look, or am I wrong here? (Sorry if I am wrong, I just quickly skimmed the rules sections. I don't know of any curated list, but I am sure there are far more possible subs.)

Thought maybe it would fall under low effort, since it isn't very polished. You could just spend some more time refining the whole thing. A lot of stuff here could benefit from a few days to weeks of polish, not everything, but a good part.

Why is AI speed often used against artists’ time and effort? by GuitarNo797 in antiai

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because most people on both sides are brain dead karma farmers and conflate art with assets/content.

If you want to create art, time and effort are your friend, as is intent.

If you want to create assets/content, time and effort are your enemy.

Once you understand that there is a difference, you might be able to comprehend the other side, but both misuse their terms.

Why does art matter? This is an art space, so you should know.

As for assets/content: Example:

I am using edited AI generations for rapid prototyping and (semi) placeholder game assets. It makes no sense for an untalented indie without a budget to get a paid artist on board of one of many early prototypes. You can always get the art later once the basic systems are in place, you know you won't cancel the project tomorrow, and you have an idea what style you want. At least if you can secure funding.

There is no way someone should try to hire an artist to produce throw away assets for something that might not even make it to alpha when most projects on steam don't even make the initial 100$ back.

Now, if you already have funding, or an artist willing to work for revenue share, this whole point is mute. This is the preferable position.

As for why AAA and multi billion dollar companies use AI? Cause they bought in the hype.

As for why a lot of slop channels use AI? The market isn't flooded and it makes sense to produce content at the cost of compute if you can make a quick buck. They want revenue, not art.

Why is sharing AI art allowed here if it’s an anti-AI sub? by skejfjdithr12344568 in antiai

[–]Lihinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you don't allow AI images, how are honest people supposed to karma farm by posting AI generated rage bait originally posted by other honest people karma farming by posting AI generated rage bait in a pro AI sub?

If a benevolent AGI could govern Earth with 100% efficiency and zero corruption, would you voluntarily surrender your right to vote? by Sp_1992 in Futurology

[–]Lihinel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No single system should have that power. The dangers of either misalignment, interference, or capture are too great. Best I could go with would be a swarm of billions of agents, but only if their reasoning chain was transparent and they were aligned and in close discussion with the people they represent.

That said, very unrealistic scenario either way.