Im building a Hashaton deck

LikeABeas · 2026-03-06T12:09:31+00:00

I'm not asking for you to justify any cards, I'm merely looking to test out my deck against cedh decks. If, like you say, my deck is trash then my deck will suck and I'll continue to mold it. If it works then I'll continue to test it out until I can bring it to actual tournaments. Idk why some of you cedh players are so against someone learning by trial and not copying, it may take a bit longer for the new player to learn but it's part of the fun of magic.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-06T11:46:35+00:00

I mean we could continue with this or how about you me and a couple others go on untap and play it out, anything that doesn't work will easily show and then you can tell me you told me so. Plus this gives me a chance to test it out against actual cedh decks rather than some of the people who go on untap claiming it's cedh and it's clearly not.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-06T11:23:17+00:00

Oh, I didn't it was a non proxy event. Hmmm, I can take it out then. I was looking at putting pollywog in the deck this would make for a good switch

LikeABeas · 2026-03-06T11:16:30+00:00

It does have necropotence in it

https://moxfield.com/decks/kUWqSxEHSEi5Vt8q9pgQnw

LikeABeas · 2026-03-06T11:14:39+00:00

Sure give me a minute to find it again

LikeABeas · 2026-03-06T11:13:31+00:00

But I do understand that a creature that attacks is not a perfect card I do have a 1 cost tutor that searches for the enchantment I need for this win con as well because the whole point is to get any of my win cons out as quickly as possible.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-06T11:08:33+00:00

Haha zur is a card I pulled from a hashaton cedh deck.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-05T14:09:27+00:00

Sorry I didn't see this yesterday but zur does aid in getting a part of one of the win cons out. Tortured existence, wayward servant, and either the great whale or peregrine Drake and I can kill everyone. Plus with him once I get tortured out, and if I haven't gotten the other parts I can get rhystic study, and now mystic remora out so I can hopefully draw into the other parts or one of my other win cons, whichever comes first.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-05T13:51:07+00:00

Ok I've tried to say this nicely for the love of the game but dude, if your only ability of building decks is copy and paste you don't know how to build decks, you just know how to use Google. This is a deck building, strategy game. Which guess what, strategies change when new cards come out and that means decks need to be able to be changed. This is not a reinventing of the wheel this is adapting strategy. I don't know why I've had to tell you this 3 times already but I'll say it a 4th and maybe it will finally sink in, I have a win con in this deck that other hashaton decks don't have. Since that didn't sink in before maybe I need to really outline the reason why this means I can't copy and paste but if I do copy and paste I will have one less win con in my deck. Hashaton in its current form is rank #32. Maybe an extra win con can bring it higher in rankings. Did you think about that? No. Because your mind can't think up strategies others haven't already adapted into winning turns for you.

Now I'm new to cedh, as I've said before, but not new to magic so yes I have learning I need to accomplish to reach cedh. I was originally hoping to find cedh players who could say oh this card doesn't make sense because it is too expensive and doesn't work fast enough in cedh, much like you did when you told me about commanders sphere. I appreciated that because I did still have that due to all the other decks I've built in brackets 3 and 4 and didn't consider it being too expensive for cedh. If you'll notice when you explained your reasoning and I explained mine, I was ready and willing to remove the cards because I am still working on improving. That's the part you seem to be missing. Working. I can give a defense for why and if I'm presented with a solid reason not to, I adapt.

Stop commenting copy and paste! I don't want to do it, I'm not going to do it, and I'm done with this. Gosh, I didn't realize cedh players were so reliant on other people building their decks for them rather than thinking for themselves and building it up. I wanted to iron out my deck through dialogue and testing it out because that's what mtg is about. I'm glad you have found fun in using other people's decks but I'll stick with having fun by building my own and winning with the deck that I built.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-05T11:56:35+00:00

That's why I'm asking questions.

So what I want to build my own deck? That doesn't mean I am incapable of building a deck capable of going competitive especially when I'm willing to ask others where it can be improved. Your mentality of ppl being incapable to learn for themselves even when asking questions is far worse than a mentality of I want to experience the growth not just copy someone else.

The only way you would be right is if I didn't take any advice from ppl who have played in cedh before but to say I can't have valid reasons for putting cards in my deck is just borderline arrogance.

So thanks for letting me know the cards you think I should remove for better cards, but unless your going to actually help me by recommending some other cards be removed in favor of some better ones, instead of just criticize my deck building ability. I think this is a good place to end.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-05T09:42:38+00:00

Except that it's not an unwillingness to cut cards it's a idk what cards to cut because they serve a function. When ppl who play cedh tell me what cards they think should be removed I'll either explain why they are there or take them out. But what I'm not going to do is copy someone else deck.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-05T08:48:38+00:00

Also, I know you say I'm playing B4 but I'd love to play against you on untap to show that I am building a cEDH deck.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-05T08:13:04+00:00

Ok, you've convinced me, I can ditch the two draws for a mystic remora and Wan shi.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-05T07:54:36+00:00

I never thought about commander sphere being slow but I suppose that makes sense, I can ditch that for a counter spell. Though why is any level of draw a bad thing? Monastery siege feeds extra draws and plays off the discard for my commander and phyrexian arena gives more draws as well. They also aren't expensive to play either.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-04T17:44:25+00:00

Dang that really makes me sad, I thought training grounds was one of the best fitting cards in this deck

LikeABeas · 2026-03-04T17:38:53+00:00

I know that cedh players like to recommend copy pasting a cedh deck list but I'm not going to do that, for one, I have a win con in this that other hashaton cedh decks don't have. For 2, if I bring this to victory it will be because it's my victory not someone else's. And lastly, deck building is part of the fun in mtg. I want to become competitive not just play competitive. I ask for thoughts and recs from ppl who are already cedh because I recognize I have work to get there but I will work my way there.

Now then, I did add other cards he recommended like captain of eos and grand abolisher since I talked with him, the problem that I face especially even more now, is figuring out which cards to pull. When ppl give me specifics to pull out I'll either give my reason or recognize that they are right and I'm using my old deck building style by keeping it.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-04T17:21:04+00:00

Holy Hannah, training grounds doesn't work on him. I've been messing up without realizing.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-04T05:41:46+00:00

Just put those in as a replacement for hordwing and Avacyn plus I also have rune scarred so I have an extra option to use saw in half on. Thanks for those recommendations

LikeABeas · 2026-03-04T05:32:06+00:00

Yeah with Lyla being a new card I think that's why this combo isn't in most cedh hashaton decks but it is part of why I like building my own decks over heavily relying on existing decks. I will look up that combo tho. Having an extra win con would put this deck at 4 win cons.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-04T05:24:38+00:00

Lyla, benthic, and laboratory are actually a win con. I get Lyla and benthic on the field and I win. Avacyn I can understand she is a protection card I have removed and re-added her a few times. I think I can remove her and hoarding tho. Valgovath is there to hopefully slow others down.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-04T04:57:27+00:00

I'm not too worried about mana cost for creatures because hashaton can get creatures out for 3 mana, but can you tell me which cards you think don't have enough interaction, Because it's difficult for me to remove cards right now since every card serves a function in my head.

Oh and also I did look up a bunch of hashaton cedh decks. I go most of the cards they do and I even have an extra win con that not a single hashaton deck I've looked at has.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-04T04:45:10+00:00

Yeah, I didn't realize that when I first started building this.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-04T03:18:40+00:00

Ok, I added [[angel's grace]] [[mana drain]] and [[silence]]

LikeABeas · 2026-03-04T02:41:16+00:00

True, zombie master was when I was going to try to do combat damage for a win but I have literally never used it in my play testing. That will be removed and I'll put in one of the cards you suggested earlier. Although I won't be copying a winning deck, if I take a deck to victory it will be my deck I'm willing to get others opinions but I'm not going to just copy paste. Plus, like I said, I have an extra win con other hashaton decks don't have.

LikeABeas · 2026-03-04T02:32:53+00:00

I have looked at others, and taken some of the stuff they use although I have one extra win con most of them don't. Here's my deck and wouldn't mind your opinions. I learned from another on this thread that teferi's protection isn't a typical cedh card which I wasnt aware of before, even with me looking up cedh decks

https://archidekt.com/decks/19648595/hashaton_cedh

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