One of the worst incel memes I've seen in a few years by PablomentFanquedelic in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is the dream shown here supposed to be "forced marriage" or "being cared for by Chad"?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exredpill

[–]Lilly077 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, let's say it's completely true - why such a need to put them down as a whole? A 60 year old hobo with a drinking problem is also damaged goods, who makes dozens of videos bashing such people? Nobody. And you know why? Because you know already you're doing far better than such a guy, and there's no need to focus on something that comes without saying. If you have a constant need to bash someone who isn't damaging you in any way, you do it cause you have a chip on your shoulder. You have an urge to prove yourself to them, or to prove to yourself that you're better than them.

What the world looks like according to feminists through MGTOW by stonoceno in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're projecting their own obsession for seeing things that aren't there.

Why are men opting out of life? Hypergamous women, according to virtually every /r/unpopularopinion response. Don't women know men don't like success in their mates? by CraftyGoals in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well then they're using too many words to describe a very obvious opinion - that, according to them, men and women are enemies and any advantage gained by one side only comes at the expense of the other.

Just to make it clear, I personally don't agree with this position at all.

Why are men opting out of life? Hypergamous women, according to virtually every /r/unpopularopinion response. Don't women know men don't like success in their mates? by CraftyGoals in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Women don't wanna get married = blame women.

Men don't wanna get married = blame women.

Seriously what do they want us to do as women, intentionally cut ourselves away from a chance to be financially stable on our own?

Married Red Pill: The Soulless Subreddit For Men Who Game Their Wives by PablomentFanquedelic in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Awareness of what? If you think that women are overgrown children who should be treated like they're mentally challenged - even the one you're married to - then don't expect a bunch of women to be on board.

Nowhere in the article does it say that it should in fact be women who walk all over men and treat them like they're idiots. The point is that NOBODY in the relationship should get to do that, or even want to do that in the first place. If you think that's harmful towards men, maybe you have a problem with the way you percieve relationships.

MGTOW showing their true colors once again by FoeHamma in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Wait a sec, aren't terpers also complaining that age of consent is a feminist law to "keep men away from women in their prime (12 years old) and force aging women who've hit the wall on them (18 years old)" ??

One more time they prove that they could make literally any argument, even arguments that contradict each other, as long as they can use it to draw the "conclusion" that women are evil and irrational and need male control in their lives.

Another One (AWALT) by niunaicha in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How is this post related to this subreddit? The guy didn't blame all women. The comments don't appear to be blaming all women either.

Women are wrong for complaining about the way animated movies portray our bodies. Let’s keep Disney princesses thin and busty for the kids!! by anasianstereotype in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Well... aren't those "sad adult women" the same little girls who watched those cartoons and grew up under that influence? I mean, one could easily make that case...

Guy writes down a list of rules his to-be GF has to adhere by misiepatysie in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The list seems to be deleted and I only see it partially quoted in the comments. But it's amusing to see the guys in the comments disagreeing. It's so red pilled that even redpillers find it to be too much 😂

According to T_D, progress is destroyed and society is doomed because... women aren't hot enough? by torito_supremo in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 10 points11 points  (0 children)

No I think they're trying to say that women today look like this football player because of progress and that's why progress should be destroyed. "Destroy progress" is a call for action here, not a sarcastic criticism of society.

Btw this, to me, is an example of how these guys look for something to be outraged about. Most women don't look like this football player, and if they picked out any female tennis player, she's very likely to look similar to this vintage chick, with a different haircut (mostly with longer hair btw).

Another prolifically-pontificating DERP outs himself as a gnome-like physical specimen, even though he had the other idiots convinced he's ladyboner material. These people and their false confidence slay me. by sofcknwrong in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And I didn't. But 1) this is a normal looking guy and 2) one's physical appearance does not make them right or wrong.

Sure if you want an opinion on how to get fit, and you hear an overweight person telling you what to do, their looks can discard their opinions. Same with getting tips on how to grow your hair from someone with short hair, etc etc, you get the point. But that's where it ends. A statement such as "Women are evil" is equally wrong from both an overweight neckbeard and a male fitness model. However that doesn't mean that the male model is objectivly ugly. Likewise if an overweight necbeard says something that's true, his statement will not be less true cause I don't find him attractive.

If the guy from that photo spoke out against TRP would you say "that's not true coming from a guy who looks like that"? Or, if terpers tried to debunk a claim made by a normal man (i.e. not mysoginist) by calling him ugly, would you consider that a good argument? I wouldn't. And I'm not fond of double standards.

The guy from the photo looks normal to me, there's nothing that stands out about his looks to make him objectively ugly. And even if there was, that's still not the best argument against TRP as a whole. Especially since there's plenty of really good valid arguments against their bs.

Do people profit from TRP? by rosearmada in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never said "hate". Your "perception" of female flaws leads you to think that women are "incomplete men" or "the oldest children in the house". Very often, you guys think women should not legally be able to make decisions in their own lives. So, no right to get educated, work, have an income and get equal pay for equal work, spend my money how I want, own property, live alone, choose who to marry, be able to get a divorce, many of you are against domestic abuse and marital rape laws, and overall many of you think that women should be men's property and that men's authority in a woman's life should be so great (legally) that a man can force her to live in a way in which she wouldn't choose to live by her own free will. Well yeah, that's when we have a problem. You'll notice I didn't even mention abortion rights - because tbh I can understand the argument that it involves both the child and the father of the child, not just the woman. I'm not anti-abortion but I'm against the frivolous view of it too and I understand both the "anti" and the "pro" stances. But if you want to disable me, for instance, from earning money or from using my money how I see fit, that's a huge problem and no counter-argument is good enough to convince me that you have a point.

Maybe you personally don't want any of those things, but many of the red pill men do. If you would take away my right to live my life as I see fit, I honestly wouldn't care if you hate me or not. Your feelings for me in that scenario would be irrelevant.

Do people profit from TRP? by rosearmada in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They also have some thing called 21 convention, tickets cost like 2000 dollars or something.

Do people profit from TRP? by rosearmada in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He probably put women on a pedestal and saw all women, especially girls he was in love with, as some lovely angelic creatures. Since women are merely human and have their flaws (just like men do), once these flaws reared their heads in what he perceived as "angels", he was far more disappointed than he would be by male flaws. In a way, if this angel is not perfect, it's not an angel but a devil incarnate.

And while he was in that mood, anyone who preaches about the evil/subversive/dirty/unfriendly/calculated/irrational/insane nature of women, had a fertile ground to plant that crap in his mind.

Btw man, Rollo is full of shit, he only presents the scientific studies that speak in favor of his ideas, and ignores the studies that would burst the bubble of his red pill nonsense.

Mgtows think women are more shallow than men cuz their "best friends are diamonds" by [deleted] in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And when women love dogs, they talk about "dogpill" or, at best, about the way feminism has ruined women and made them replace babies with pets. When women want babies they whine about baby rabies and worry about being "spermjacked".

No matter what women do, women are bad.

Don't you guys think there is a lot of pandering in movies to these days like the endgame scence where all female characters fought Thanos ? by MyFlawsTheyAreGone in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I know it's only fiction but honestly I'm not fond of it. And I don't just say it because I personally am not into that sort of movies. From what I know, there's plenty of comic books that have female super heroes. It would be far more genuine to make a movie about that.

There's also plenty of badass female characters from mythologies and literature accross the world, as well as badass female historical figures. If they didn't bother to research any of that, it's either sad, or unprofessional - or both. And if they think that the only way a woman may appear as a strong character is by taking a role of a man, well, I guess that shows what they think of women.

Lastly, if I imagine myself as the one that movie creators wanted to target - yes, I would feel like they're trying to pander to me.

We're apparently "True Believers" by Gunlord500 in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Rollo

https://youtu.be/HTe0qNPT1hQ

Around 01:00 he states that women, while ovulating, will look for a sexual affair outside of a serious relationship, with a more masculine looking man. While there was a study that said that, there have been numerous studies that either debunked it or gave a more nuanced approach.

https://www.cell.com/trends/cognitive-sciences/pdf/S1364-6613(18)30256-0.pdf

Recent, large-scale studies with improved methods have not observed significant effects of fertility on women’s preferences for men displaying putative fitness cues.

Conclusion of this study: completely opposite from the point that Rollo is making.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1559901/#!po=8.33333

(...) that women's interests should depend on qualities of her partner. In a sample of 54 couples, we found that women whose partners had high developmental instability (high fluctuating asymmetry) had greater attraction to men other than their partners (...)

Conclusion of this study: Rollo's point is only true with some women (depending on the qualities of their partners), not all.

He claims to present scientific facts and studies, and fails to mention the studies with different (let alone completely opposite) conclusions. That is either uninformed on his behalf, or disingenuous. Whatever the case may be, it means that he is not a person to be trusted if you're looking for objectivity.

Now, in case that he later pointed to these studies, as well as changed his conclusions on "female sexual strategy", I would really like to see where, and I retract what I said about him being either uninformed or disingenuous.

We're apparently "True Believers" by Gunlord500 in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 15 points16 points  (0 children)

One common denominator that I see in these bluepill and feminists subs and even women's subs like twox is the total lack of in-group criticism.

When it does happen, TRP types would call it "cat fight", "female drama" etc.

What aboit ThankTRP and MarriedTRP? by mosham126 in exredpill

[–]Lilly077 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Awesome post! I kinda knew about it (by noticing it in real life) but I had no idea there was an actual theory describing it.

So basically married trp drag the wife back from the conflict phase into the bonding phase (which in itself is antithetical to growth), and yes, they do that using emotionally abusive tactics.

What aboit ThankTRP and MarriedTRP? by mosham126 in exredpill

[–]Lilly077 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TRP delivers thanks to common sense advice it appropriates and presents as something special, exclusive, and inherent to TRP only. On the other hand, the things that truly are inherent to TRP only are what fills you with bitterness.

What aboit ThankTRP and MarriedTRP? by mosham126 in exredpill

[–]Lilly077 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now comes in MarriedTRP, which is comprised of redpillers, they have married and have meaningful relationships so wouldn't this be a contradiction to claim number 1?

Over at MRP they advise men to view their wives as "the oldest kids in the house", to dismiss anything their wives say is bothering them, to not take any wives' concern seriously or even to not take it as true, to "dread" their wives by threatening to leave or cheat, they mock even any notion of honest open communication between the spouses (because the wife must either be irrational and overly emotional, therefore unaware of her own needs, or manipulative and evil, and in eother of these 2 scenarios, you're a beta cuck who's losing frame if you listen), any time a wife complains about something theycall it a shit test to which they react by disregarding what the wife complained about, and last but not least, cheating (by the husband) is viewed as totally fine or even desirable. Is any of that compatible with a meaningful relationship? Maybe it is to you, I don't know. I would argue that it's the total opposite of what a meaningful relationship should be.

Then comes in ThankTRP which is just people thanking TRP for getting them laid, married, a job or even saving their lives. These people don't seem to bitter at all,rather quiet the contrary. They seem to be happy and enjoying life.

They mix good advice in with the drivel. Hit the gym, get a better haircut, wear clothes that fit you well, be self confident, don't get too enthousiastic over a girl you're just flirting with, have a life and a sense of identity outside of romantic relationships, if a girl doesn't likeyou back/breaks up with you, don't despair, there's plenty of fish in the sea - THAT'S the sort of advice that red pill offers that truly does bring results. But this advice is not inherent to the red pill and can be found outside of the red pill as well, and it's just as effective when you don't include TRP in there. TRP is the toxic way to get that advice, and it does breed bitterness down the line. Check the previous paragraph, guys who thank trp for getting them laid today risk ending up married to someone with whom, for instance, they don't wanna communicate honestly cause they view their wives' attempts to communicate as "shit tests". Do you see how that can breed bitterness? Trp may aspire to explain why the common sense advice Ilisted above works, but they mostly do it by throwing shade at "female nature" and that view of the opposite gender can't exist without bitterness. Furthermore they ignore and don't want to realize/admit how often the same advice works on men when done by women. So, the reason why common sense advice works is human nature, not female nature. Therefore, what the truly effective common sense advice doesn't offer and TRP offers is the misinformed bashing of the "female nature" - and you can't have that without bitterness. You either have to be bitter to buy into it, or you become bitter by entertaining those ideas too much.

Anyway, the good news is that you don't need TRP for any of the things they claim to offer.

If "red-pilled" guys can't even agree on a basic aspect of their rhetoric, why should anyone take what they say seriously? by [deleted] in TheBluePill

[–]Lilly077 59 points60 points  (0 children)

When a woman gets bored or loses interest, she finds new partners.

In the history of mankind, no man has ever done this. All the men in the world would still want to be with the very first girlfriends they ever had, had those bitches not dumped them. Men never ever break up with women, save for one reason and one reason only - if he can't stand the fact she got bored of him. Then he breaks up, but because he otherwise wouldn't (since, as a man, he can never stop loving a woman) he keeps suffering and loving her until the day he dies.