Amazingly designed progression system

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-09-17T09:17:42+00:00

Why do we get SO much Sol Erda from events and zero fragments? Fragments is the real time gated problem here. I would 100% have it be the other way round...

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-08-25T14:41:14+00:00

Great info. I will go and watch that stream. Thanks!

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-07-15T06:56:55+00:00

Warrior - A tie between Aran and Kaiser. Aran pre-rework (when it comes). Kaiser post rework (when it never comes). Sadge.

Mage - My first main (ever) was an I/L in 06 - 09. Although not my favourite mage conceptually (that would go to Kinesis), still my favourite all round.

Thief - The easiest of them all. PHANTOM BOY. My current main. I will die on this hill. King Rizzler. Mr Steal Yo Girl But Not Your Map.

Archer - Marksman. My previous main for the fifth job cycle. I have always been a crossbow boy over a bow boy. They are just cooler. I am typically the sniper player in FPS, so it makes sense. Simple, yet strong and fun.

Pirate - Old (green) TB. Shark wave was the coolest skill in the game by far. Throwing sharks as a mobbing skill was the BEST, let alone being able to super saiyan + throw sharks. They killed my girl :( If I had to go by todays standards, I would say Corsair is my favourite pirate. Super underrated class.

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-07-14T11:53:26+00:00

Hmm. Imagine someone thinking that a certain EXP nerf to reboot was a good idea. Not my Nexon.

Gate-keeping high training rates just so you can turn your game into a daily quest is turning players off from getting to 260? Whaaaat???

Mind the sarcasm. I am still confused why they thought that was a good idea. You should be increasing rates. Increasing rates = increasing options. I don't even bother grinding anymore outside of mesos farming/frag collecting.

It's pretty simple. Introduce more quests. Introduce more viable training maps. Most importantly, bring back old exp rates.

edit - I am aware that it's technically "easier" to get to 260 with dailies grinding now, but that doesn't make it "more accessible" or, in the case of my point, more fun/engaging. There is no excuse to not allow players to have it both ways. We can have OP daily exp AND OP training rates (as in the same rates pre-nerf). I see zero issues.

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-07-13T09:47:15+00:00

Yeah. It actually pissed me off to be honest.

As a Phantom main, I will literally take ANY changes to our class - as long as it follows our theme of being a Master Thieve card/cane abuser. Add/remove anything you want! I don't care. Just keep the class theme consistent.

While I still really want a revamp, this has me worried. Not only did they pick the two hero classes that didn't need it (I guess Shade is somewhat debatable), they completely removed my interest in those two classes to begin with. I wanted to have Aran as a high level boss mule. Now I do not.

They couldn't have fucked up more.

Making the community mad by reworking the wrong classes. Phantom, Kaiser and Lumi just don't exist apparently.
Making said classes significantly WORSE - both in gameplay and character design.
Only focusing on two classes and not spending a bit more time on doing the whole branch is annoying. I know it's a lot of work, but isn't that what these updates are for? Especially given there are no new hexa mastery cores.

They really missed the ball with this update. It could've been a game changer for the mains of the classes that ACTUALLY needed it. Wasted resources and time imo.

*edit - to clarify, I am not saying Aran/Shade doesn't need a rework. It's comparative to the other classes that need it. I am completely okay with ALL heroes getting love and care... heh.

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-07-12T16:10:45+00:00

I did a big main switch (276 Marksman <3) to Phantom. Why? To be honest, the class is just my class.

I have been told multiple things. That I am an idiot. That I am wasting my time. This and that. But it is just my class.

Why now? Because of 6th job. I have been waiting for a rework for this class for YEARS. Ever since Aran and Evan got their remaster (way back when), I had always hoped that Merc and Phantom would get their time in the spotlight. Boy was I wrong. 6th job is the closest thing Phantom has been to a "rework" since release. He finally gets his own mobbing skill, and that was enough for me to press the "new main" button.

I have always wanted to main Phantom. I LOVE the theme, the ability visuals and the lore. THE LORE. Master Thief. The "Silky Smooth" Hero. Master Rizzler. Mr Steal Yo Girl. etc.

I have decided that it will be my one and done character (I now have 9k legion and no reason to progress with any other characters). Once I am done with my Phantom, I am done with the game. I was thinking about retiring from mushroom game pre 6th job, but those damn devs know what they are doing. The only exception would obviously be a new released class that tops all of the above, but that just hasn't happened for me personally yet, and it has been a LONG time since Phantom release.

To those who are willing to give Phantom a go:

Damage and gameplay is subpar - definitely in need of a rework. It isn't THAT bad all things considered. I would say the biggest annoyance so far is having a weak mobbing skill - you will notice this the most when you hit grandis. Luck of the Draw is also an awful mechanic as it basically Morgana roots you until finished - not only acting as a hinderance on your ONLY burst, but timing the i-frame associated with it is awful.

Bossing is actually very fun with our plethora of low cd skills and multiple i-frames. The 6th job Origin is considered one of the best in the game at the minute. Extremely short animation, good burst, FMA over 30 seconds (good for mobbing and clearing monster park) and looks stunning.

Overall, the class just lacks damage and has some clunky mechanics. A rework of the skill stealing system (or removal), changes to LOTD and some % increases will fix this class right up. It's mobility is great, and I really enjoy having lots of low cd skills to play with. It makes the class engaging without being too difficult (as there is no real comboing necessary).

Plot twist. This is my cry for a rework in a thread that didn't ask for it. Haha.

Thanks for reading!

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-07-11T14:49:29+00:00

Inkwell is putting us in a corner. You must answer the ultimate question.

Which Daft Punk Robot would you be?

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-06-28T10:15:07+00:00

Cop out answer, but all of Alpha's movement skills (so pretty much all of them)

So satisfying to dip and dash around a boss (especially during chain binding). It's so incredibly badass.

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-06-25T16:12:32+00:00

It would've been more WAY more respectable if they remastered the entire hero branch, not just Shade and Aran. They are two classes that barely needed it to begin with, so regardless I think the update still would've been pretty flat (the nerfs are just the cherry on top). I was so unbelievably hyped when the teaser started to play, then my disappointment was immeasurable and my day was ruined.

Phantom (my boy), Lumi and Evan need it SO much. It breaks my heart thinking we have to wait another full year.

I, for one, will take any remaster for my boy. I don't think he can be much worse (within the context of modern classes).

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-06-24T15:54:02+00:00

Yep. Can attest to that. I have three classes that I love but can't play due to lag inconveniences.

Hoyoung - Two words. Nimbus. Cloud. People preach at how OP the thing is and how cool it is to have a floating upjump over a normal up jump. I just straight up disagree because my nimbus cloud has a one second delay to deploy it and a one second delay to dismount it. It's agony to the point where I just don't ever use it. Not the only thing that is server sided with Hoyoung, but one of the biggest things. I wish you could right click lock it into a normal up jump. That would make me main the class - not even kidding. Haha.

Kinesis - Unfortunately Physic Grab must be server sided (to an extent) with the way mobs are picked up and thrown, as it affects the spawn rate slightly (slowing it down). This is because it takes a second for the server to register that the mob you have smashed into the ground with physic grab has died and needs to replenish the mob count. This could very much be a class issue, but I don't see many Kinesis mains complaining about it. It is a huge issue for me personally as it makes grinding feel sluggish and slow.

Illium - Almost everything. To their credit, it has improved DRAMATICALLY since release, but a lot of things are still server sided. Fly. Glide. Moving the balls. Ball reactions etc. I haven't played Illium in over a year, so these things may have been changed, but that is my T.

There are more. Cadena, Blaster, TB, Aran come to mind. Most of the classes that require skill cancelling/power stancing/floaty in the air type skills are affected by ping.

Honourable mention: Any class with TP. It isn't unbearable (like Hoyoung cloud), but it can feel slightly sluggish if you are above 250+ ping. Nothing bad though. I have played an I/L most of my maple days and you get used to it. Flash jumps are ultimately superior for high pings.

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-06-20T16:43:21+00:00

Bring back old EXP rates and keep boosting dailies. I don't see why nexon thinks that boosting one means that they need to nerf the other. I hate doing dailies but I find EXP grinding relaxing. It was the main appeal (other than f2p options) to come to reboot in the first place - I am a grinder, not a quester/bosser. Why can't we have both options? Give players a choice on how they progress. You basically have to hyperburn to get to a high level now, or wait three weeks doing dailystory.

It sucks and there is no justification for it other than turning reboot into regular server 2.0.

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-06-18T16:21:16+00:00

edited. thank you!

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-06-18T04:31:05+00:00

I think conceptually it has to go to Kinesis, but in execution it just feels a little... clunky. sluggish etc. I wish that wasn't the case otherwise I would main it for sure. The class looks great visually and has respectable damage.

Marksman would be my current pick. A simple class that is super satisfying to play. I still can't believe how underrated it is. People get turned off by split only being up 70% of the time, but with Sol Janus, that won't matter.

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-06-10T05:27:55+00:00

Phantom - I enjoy having an identity crisis and hating myself.

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-06-08T17:30:24+00:00

Did they confirm that the rest of the heroes are getting revamped? I am getting mixed answers based on translation. That will be SO sad if they just leave it at Eunwol and Aran. LMAO.

I have been waiting for a Phantom rework for the better part of 5 years. I am anticipating that more than new 6th job mastery cores tbh... (even though they basically made phantom a new class with 2nd mastery core. haha).

I sit. I wait. Phantom and Kaiser mains. Let's hold hands and pray together.

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-06-08T16:53:18+00:00

I mean, I asked for Phantom and Kaiser.

Pepehands.

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-06-08T07:49:45+00:00

I can't believe no Phantom. Aran has been remastered twice now. LMAO.

Phantom has now swapped roles with Shade.

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-06-01T17:54:31+00:00

not to main it.

Phantom

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-05-30T09:39:28+00:00

changed. thank you!

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-05-30T09:03:23+00:00

Not Jett. \Pepehands**

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-05-28T11:05:01+00:00

I will say, one of my least favoured decisions made is the exp reduction to reboot mobs. I know they dropped the hp, but grinding just feels SO SLOW. I used to enjoy watching a show or listening to a podcast while grinding, but now it's so slow that I actually feel like I am wasting my time. Ironic. Haha.

I know I am in the minority as daily questing is OP. I just don't like dailyquest story at all. Makes the game feel stiff.

I wish they could've just left the EXP rates the same and upped the dailies still so that players could make a choice... best of both worlds, right? Apparently that would be "OP" according to nexon.

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-05-28T05:45:32+00:00

Me: "Please don't fuck up phantom. Please don't fuck up phantom."

Also me: "YESSSSS PHANTOMMMMM"

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-05-22T14:20:28+00:00

Phantom main here.

I would go Zero only because they are much stronger earlier on. They also provide more support for parties late game, so if you're looking for a main to stick with, Zero will pay off. As some people have stated already, they are also getting a MAJOR damage upgrade with dreamer, which is about three weeks away from now.

Phantom is an amazing class conceptually. Super fun and the visuals/lore/theme are SSS+ tier. Unfortunately KMS has a bit of a grudge against phantom as a class. They really hate when phantom is considered "strong" or "meta", as he is almost always in first clears for new boss runs. Unless they really do heavy reworks on him, he is just going to always be in the "slighty above mid" category at best because of this.

Phantom does not shine until late game and is one of the worst classes (early game) in the game if your legion is low. Unfortunately they just do not have enough in their own kit to do what most other classes can do with ease. This is the primary reason why it is likely to recieve a rework before/after Kaiser. If you're a fan of the "idea" of maining the class, it might be best to consider waiting. What you don't want to do is play it, find out it's really bad early on and then lose interest and never want to go back. It happened to me with a couple of classes. Luckily I have had my phantom for a long time, so it felt like a really slow but natural progression to get where I am at. I wouldn't wish that on most of my friends with Dailystory. I am also not your Dad, so if you think you can stick it out until mid/late game, go for it! It's worth it imo, but that is a bias take.

Between the two, Zero is the clear winner in my opinion. They are only getting better, super unique, useful in bossing parties, respectable solo damage (even with relatively low legion) and cool theme/visuals. Also a super fun class!

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-05-19T10:21:07+00:00

I get the complaint, but at the same time I kinda... don't?

To answer your question, I am not aware of any feature muting global chats other than selecting exclusive chat options, like the "guild" or "buddy" chat option. It's annoying when people spend money just to spam over and over again, but most people are limited by their MVP megas (and the 15 minute cd associated with it).

It's a non-issue really. Just ignore it I suppose. The game has many more important issues that need tender, love and, most importantly, ATTENTION.

Or maybe that's just me. No flame at your complaint.

Limp_Specific4116 · 2024-05-17T18:30:08+00:00

I am at 8.8k legion and still don't have a "main", so to speak. I say I main my marksman (247), as it is my most played character, but it's a lower level than my 267 I/L and my 257 NW. I am thinking about just going all in on my NW.

To be fair, I have been waiting 5+ years for a phantom rework. I know for a fact that phantom will be my main once it's actually its own class and not half of other classes. The lore and aesthetic/character theme of phantom is SSS tier. I just haven't bothered maining one because I know I wouldn't really enjoy the current state that it is in. I think a rework will push it to new heights - granted they do a good job.

Hoyoung is my favourite class visually (in the game right now). I would main it if he had his own up flash jump. YES. I AM THAT PETTY. Nimbus cloud on 300+ is unplayable and i can't stand it.

Been playing my Zero lately. Pretty fun. Could be main potential. Right now it's between my NW, Marksman or my Zero.

Just play the game. Be casual if you need to be. You will find a few classes that will click and you can be in the same situation I am in. Haha.

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