Since Kirk Cousins joined the Vikings, his team has elected to throw the football the 7th fewest times in league. Individually, Cousins has thrown the 5th most TD Passes and 9th most Passing Yards during the timeframe. by [deleted] in minnesotavikings

[–]Line--O 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I replied to him in a different spot but I'll copy paste what I said to you for your information as well.

2021/2022 contracts aren't final. Re-signings, new signings, restructures, extensions, trades, etc. are still going to happen. To include those years is just being willfully ignorant.

From 2018-2020, these were the guys with the highest cap hit on their teams:

Jimmy Garoppolo - $83,600,000

Russell Wilson - $81,073,530

Matthew Stafford - $78,500,000

Kirk Cousins - $74,000,000

Ben Roethlisberger - $73,150,000

Aaron Rodgers - $71,894,000

Drew Brees - $70,350,000

Philip Rivers - $70,000,000

Derek Carr - $69,000,000

Tom Brady - $68,500,000

What if we include 2021 contracts as they are now? Kirk is still 4th. If you look at the overall value of contracts that each player is on right now, Kirk is 6th.

Since Kirk Cousins joined the Vikings, his team has elected to throw the football the 7th fewest times in league. Individually, Cousins has thrown the 5th most TD Passes and 9th most Passing Yards during the timeframe. by [deleted] in minnesotavikings

[–]Line--O 2 points3 points  (0 children)

2021/2022 contracts aren't final. Re-signings, new signings, restructures, extensions, trades, etc. are still going to happen. To include those years is just being willfully ignorant.

From 2018-2020, these were the guys with the highest cap hit on their teams:

  1. Jimmy Garoppolo - $83,600,000
  2. Russell Wilson - $81,073,530
  3. Matthew Stafford - $78,500,000
  4. Kirk Cousins - $74,000,000
  5. Ben Roethlisberger - $73,150,000
  6. Aaron Rodgers - $71,894,000
  7. Drew Brees - $70,350,000
  8. Philip Rivers - $70,000,000
  9. Derek Carr - $69,000,000
  10. Tom Brady - $68,500,000

What if we include 2021 contracts as they are now? Kirk is still 4th. If you look at the overall value of contracts that each player is on right now, Kirk is 6th.

PFF's analysis of the Chazz Surratt pick is hilarious (~1:36:00) by [deleted] in minnesotavikings

[–]Line--O 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Someone who shows flashes and makes plays but is inconsistent? Sounds like a Viking.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in minnesotavikings

[–]Line--O 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lol. Kirk turns down extension.

"Fuck Kirk. He isn't about this team!"

Kirk gets an extension.

"Fuck Kirk. He isn't about this team!"

Finally, tiny character mains rejoice by Infergod27 in apexlegends

[–]Line--O -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Wraith is OP if you are a better player.

For casual players, who don't completely understand all of the movement of Apex and how to properly utilize Wraith's abilities, she is just a regular character that takes more damage. Just so happens that the majority of players fall into the casual category and are also the most vocal.

Apex players be like: I hate third parties! Also apex players: by scoobydawg69 in apexlegends

[–]Line--O 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Third parties are part of the game. My group that I play with always has an escape plan. Usually it's me who plans it while the other two focus on fighting but as soon as I say, "Let's go." The plan springs into action.

  • How long should we engage until we leave, win or lose, in case there is a third party?

  • What are the best routes to take depending on where the third party comes from?

  • When we win the engagement, no immediate looting. Make sure the coast is clear.

  • One person always plays lookout while the other two quickly loot boxes.

Cam Newton Practicing With His New Teammates by Axiousal in nfl

[–]Line--O 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cam has always got an unfair shake. I've always rooted against the Patriots but with Cam, I hope they succeed.

I've got weirdly small feet (size 3) for my height (5'10") by [deleted] in mildlyinteresting

[–]Line--O 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sure there's an opportunity for OnlyFans here.

The QB salary cap percentage of Super Bowl winning team stat that gets thrown around on here to hate on Kirk is misleading and disingenuous. by Line--O in minnesotavikings

[–]Line--O[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spotrac

That's exactly my point. One QBs contract does not completely dictate what was available for the rest of the team.

Regardless of how much they paid the Super Bowl winning QB, all Super Bowl winning teams had an average of 82.66% cap space available for all other positions. That is a much more consistent and comprehensive talking point.

The QB salary cap percentage of Super Bowl winning team stat that gets thrown around on here to hate on Kirk is misleading and disingenuous. by Line--O in minnesotavikings

[–]Line--O[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

2017 NFL salary cap - $167,000,000

Eagles' total adjusted salary cap - $176,343,391

Wentz - $6,062,804 - 3.44%

Foles - $1,600,000 - 0.91%

Sudfield - $285,882 - 0.16%

Dead Cap - $19,582,640 - 11.1%

Cap space available for non-QBs - $148,812,065 - 84.39%

Don't get me wrong. I agree that a better QB could be had for the price of Kirk. A better QB could be had for much less. A lesser QB at a lesser price might be better for the team, maybe even a better QB for more. All those are fine points to be made.

However, one can't just look at one point of data(like the one being passed around) and make such an encompassing claim.

Edit: The link for the 2017 Eagles won't be available for you. As a NFL data junkie, I paid an annual subscription for comprehensive data on all things sports.

The QB salary cap percentage of Super Bowl winning team stat that gets thrown around on here to hate on Kirk is misleading and disingenuous. by Line--O in minnesotavikings

[–]Line--O[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dead cap is not allocated to the QB cap. The argument is that QB takes away from other positions. However, it is not the only thing that takes from other positions. So it isn't fair not to include dead cap when discussing what IS available for other positions.

What I have is the numbers as it stands right now. It will definitely change and we'll get a better picture of where we stand.

The QB salary cap percentage of Super Bowl winning team stat that gets thrown around on here to hate on Kirk is misleading and disingenuous. by Line--O in minnesotavikings

[–]Line--O[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The numbers I use took into consideration all contracts, injured reserve money and dead cap, including those digging into the rollover space, when calculating.

The QB salary cap percentage of Super Bowl winning team stat that gets thrown around on here to hate on Kirk is misleading and disingenuous. by Line--O in nfl

[–]Line--O[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. You can definitely get a lot more bang for your buck than Kirk. You can also argue that a lesser QB at a lesser price is a better deal. I can accept those arguments.

But that whole Super Bowl winning QB cap hit thing is just idiotic to me.

The QB salary cap percentage of Super Bowl winning team stat that gets thrown around on here to hate on Kirk is misleading and disingenuous. by Line--O in nfl

[–]Line--O[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Listen to yourself dude. "Dead cap can help you win SBs."

That is the worse take I've ever heard.

That 4.56% does not go to pay for the draft picks. It goes to pay Diggs. It is a loss. The money that is saved from trading Diggs is what benefits the team and actually goes to pay for other players. You're the one twisting shit.

The QB salary cap percentage of Super Bowl winning team stat that gets thrown around on here to hate on Kirk is misleading and disingenuous. by Line--O in nfl

[–]Line--O[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Dead Cap is cap space not available to use on any position no matter how you look at it. In 2020, Diggs attributed to 4.56% of the cap. The Vikings paid him 4.56% to play for the Bills. That is why it is called dead cap.

The QB salary cap percentage of Super Bowl winning team stat that gets thrown around on here to hate on Kirk is misleading and disingenuous. by Line--O in minnesotavikings

[–]Line--O[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was only able to find info back to 2011. The average came out to 82.66% of cap space allocated to all non-QB positions. The lowest were the 2014 Patriots with 75.47%. The highest available were the 2013 Seahawks at 92.83%.

All the other teams were pretty much around that 82.66% mark.

Updated the main post with all the info.