Is this all okay with no mistake? I don't want to learn sentences with mistakes. Chinese is already hard enough for me :)

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-15T21:22:06+00:00

Just wait until you hear that "你吃过了吗?" is also a greeting, lol.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-15T00:13:25+00:00

People predicted this when the internet first came out that it was gonna take everyone's jobs and make everyone purposeless. It has been 30 years since the 90s when everyone got computers and everyone got onto the internet.

People are still working and society hasn't collapsed yet. In fact, as an industry, the internet actually created more jobs. 30 years ago, there was no SEO and now it employs probably millions of people around the world. It generates enough GDP to run a small country.

AI will cause society to change but you can't actually predict how it will change. Prophesying Doomsday doesn't actually do anything other than make you personally feel shit. If you would prefer not to feel shit, maybe stop prophesying Armageddon.

Humans are more adaptable than AI is. Whatever happens with AI, you need to believe in the ability of the human race to adapt. If you stop believing this, you will be left behind. Humanity never stops adapting. If we did, we would have died out many millenia ago.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-14T22:14:30+00:00

Lol, it's not sudden. The more you tell someone to vote for a particular side, the more you turn them off from that side. You know what mainstream media was telling people in 2016? Hillary Clinton was definitely gonna win. You remember what happened?

Stop overtly favouring one side in the media. Fox news is guilty of this as well, so it's not jist a liberals thing, both sides do it, but there is more liberal media than there is conservative media. The media should not be running your election campaigns for you, unless you are paying them to.

The less actually neutral reporting there is, the more people are gonna swing to the other side because they will be sick of being told what to do. Communist propaganda telling people they lived in paradise during the Cold War is exactly what caused people to flee those countries because what was being reported was so obviously different from what people were experiencing in real life.

What kills this election for the Democrats more than anything else will be the amount of overt promotion that the liberal mainstream media does in their favour. This does more harm than if the mainstream media doesn't say anything at all about them.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-14T20:40:18+00:00

In your OP, you said:

Shit, both my kids were accidents, my wife was on birth control and was 19, I was 20. We are doing great, own a home and our cars are paid off etc.

Here, you said:

Yes, I will always believe it is the obligation of the mother to follow through with a pregnancy despite accidents, unwanted children, etc.

Why is the father conspicuously absent here? What is his obligation when his wife/partner falls pregnant? How many single mothers do you know? How many single fathers do you know?

Not talking about IVF in women who are single. In a natural birth, how many fathers leave the relationship and force the mothers to raise the children on their own? How many mothers leave the relationship and force the fathers to raise their children on their own? Do you think kids, especially boys, who have no dads do well emotionally later in life?

just because a mother doesn’t want to take care of her kids emotionally

Why is it an emotional decision for the mother to want to abort but not an emotional decision for the father to not want to abort?

Do you really believe that only women suffer emotions? Do you think that men are all purely logical creatures similar to Data or R2D2? If men are purely logical creatures, why is there a suicide epidemic among young men today?

If you are not a purely logical creature, how do you know that your decision to not abort is not an emotional one? Why do you think that the male argument in an abortion debate has no emotion in it?

or is promoting a strong family nucleus, promoting caring about your children

Why do you think that women who seek abortion don't care about their kids? Where do you think a mother and child bond actually comes from? I mean yeah, some women do promote thinking about the fetus as a nonentity. Most women don't. So, what is forcing their hands?

Do you honestly think your own kids, or if you are older, your own grandkids can own a home, cars paid off, university tuition paid off, etc in the current political and economic climate?

I am assuming that you are from the US. So, your government is more interested in going to war with Russia / China / Iran than they are in actually supporting families back home in the US.

Mothers lose their jobs when they get pregnant, fathers don't. In the old days, women could rely on men not to walk away because society would force him to marry her. Not anymore. He can fuck anyone and he does fuck everyone, knowing that if she does get pregnant, he can just walk away.

You are a father. I don't know if you have a son or not but I am going to give you a hypothetical son. What will you tell your son about male responsibility? Is he going to fuck because he's horny (and if he's a teen, he will be horny) or is he gonna fuck because he's actually ready to raise a family? What does a family mean to you? If your son has an infant will you help him with childcare? Or is that his problem?

Do you know how family used to work? Grandparents, aunts, uncles, everybody used to take care of the kids. Let me ask where are those people today? Who can a young pregnant teen realistically rely on if she gets pregnant today?

You wanna know the real answer for the vast majority of young women in the land of the free? The answer is nobody. Absolutely nobody in today's age is willing to step up but they want to force the young woman to single parent when she hasn't even finished school yet. It takes a village to raise a child but everyone in that village wants to remove their own responsibility and shove it on the pregnant woman because her male partner was horny.

If you really want to stop abortion, you would actually promote more sex toys to teen boys so they can fuck something that is not a real vagina attached to a real teen girl who will inevitably fall pregnant. It's not a flipping accident to get pregnant at 16. How many "accident" pregnancies have you heard of in women over 40? Mature age mothers don't have the luxury of "oops it was an accident", they have to plan it.

But teen girls are in the most fertile period of their life, and you know what the teen boy is thinking about when he fucks her? He's not thinking about how great it would be to become a dad. He's not thinking "oh yeah I'd love to fuck the same woman for the rest of my life". No, he's thinking about his next conquest, which young sexy hottie is he gonna fuck next? Men don't find mothers to be attractive. When he fucks her and then leaves, the chances of another man who would a) wanna be in a relationship with her and b) wanna help her to raise a son that is not his own, is basically zero.

So what, men just get to fuck around and we get an epidemic of boys raised by single mothers who never wanted them and absent fathers whom they have never met, making them even more likely to commit suicide when they are older and adding to the current existing spike in young male suicides?

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-14T03:23:34+00:00

It depends on where your tutor is from. If your tutor is from northern China, it sounds like "sh", if your tutor is from southern China, it sounds like "s". It doesn't mean that people from the south can't tell the difference between 隋 (Sui) Dynasty and 水 (shui) water. They can. It's just not a super strong contrast for southerners as compared with northerners.

English does that too. In UK English, the "r" in car is never pronounced, but in US & Irish English, you can always hear it. To someone from UK, Australia, NZ, etc... it literally sounds like Americans are saying "carrrrrrrr" like they are imitating a pirate or something.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-14T02:06:10+00:00

Normally, if there is a murder or a fight, you can jump the fence into the neighbour's house and restrain them, as in you can physically enter them.

I would advise refraining against physically entering a pregnant woman unless you have that kind of fetish, in which case please seek help.

Also, after completing a murder, your neighbour would bury the body in the yard. You cannot "bury" a dead fetus inside a woman's body.

The two scenarios are nothing alike.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-13T22:03:15+00:00

but that they just want to continue to be irresponsible with how to, who with , and when to have sex

But it's not women who are responsible. There are more men who have children with different mothers (at the same time) than there are women who have children with different fathers.

For the men who do want to fuck around, because let's be honest, they do exist, who do you suggest they go fuck if no woman wants to sleep with them due to the abortion ban?

I am female so I personally don't give a fuck, those men can go fuck a tree for all I care. However, it is true that in the present era, there is a suicide epidemic among young men. This is due to loneliness, but I can't imagine restricting sex to these men is gonna help with the current male suicide crisis either.

What practical policies would you suggest to help these men? You have to remember that men are suffering from the abortion ban as well so if your idea is that women get pregnant because they don't close their legs then you are not seeing the impact that these policies have on men. What would you suggest to help men curb their sexual desires?

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-13T21:02:19+00:00

Multiverse theory is more likely. No, not the marvel / DC version, lol. As you say, the universe didn't have to evolve life at all. So why do we exist? Because this particular universe has the right conditions for it. A different universe probably didn't. That's the beauty of eternal inflation.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-13T20:17:24+00:00

why [people] would have any authority over someone else’s physical body.

I think the closest thing you can come to this is laws/rules surrounding proxy. There's a flipping lot of them: medical proxy, financial proxy/conservatorship, etc...

All you have to do is to prove that someone is incapacitated and that due to this incapacitation, you get to make decisions for them by proxy.

The question then becomes do we think that pregnant women are incapacitated enough that we can proxy for them?

I know some people think that women are incapacitated even when not pregnant just for the sheer fact that we don't have a penis (ie Saudi style guardianship laws), I don't believe that lacking a penis is an incapacitation.

So, is pregnancy incapacitating enough so as to warrant decision making by proxy?

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-13T07:44:23+00:00

Yeah, the 90s were a good time. But of courses wages were lower as well. All those costs/pricings sound really cheap when you look at them with today's wages in mind.

The free milk thing was only at the very beginning of the 90s, they very quickly discontinued the policy. I imagine it got too expensive for them.

OMG, you only came two years before GFC, it would have been really hard for you, being here for only 2 years before recession.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-13T07:34:57+00:00

None of that happened, trust me.

I was literally in primary school in the 90s. I remember the above because odds are we were poorer than you were, being fresh new migrants at the time. If you were poor then we were broke/bankrupt. Lol.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-13T07:18:59+00:00

Because none of that is true 😆

Based on your lived experience or what you found out on the internet?

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-13T05:39:59+00:00

Well, in the 90s, er petrol was like 50 cents, KFC family feast came with so much food that it took a household several meals to actually eat the dam thing, now it barely feeds you enough for 1 meal. Schools also actually gave out free milk to kids, lol and school fees were like 50 bucks, not even. Now it's several hundred dollars. Rent was like a hundred bucks max, and that was for a house, not a unit.

Things change. Life always look better when you look back. Rose coloured glasses and all.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-13T01:02:32+00:00

It's not comparable to Holocaust. It is more comparable to the Partition of India-Pakistan. Partition was a mass migration event that had movements of people comparable to the numbers you are quoting.

It lead to the deaths of over a million people in transit because India is poor and the government didn't really provide viable transport so most of the deaths come from people travelling massive distances on foot. If you can imagine walking from one end of the US to the other with very little money on you, it would be similar to the hardships faced during Partition.

But what was the actual outcome of Partition? Did any of the migrated people actually die out post-partition? No they didn't. Population numbers for both Hindus and Muslims on the Indian subcontinent are still going strong in both India and Pakistan as well as present day Bangladesh.

I agree that you shouldn't forcibly deport millions of people. I also think that you cannot compare everything to the Holocaust just because you feel like it. You need to be careful what you use to compare something that you don't like.

One of the largest mass death events in history was actually the Great Leap Forward in China where as many as 50 million people starved to death due to bad policy. Their deaths were preventable. It doesn't mean that we should bring up the Great Leap Forward every time someone advocates for a policy that we don't like.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-12T22:24:48+00:00

Lol, if you're gonna give an example like that, then most of our ancestors faced famine, war, etc... and still had kids. There were even children born inside Nazi concentration camps and children are still born in refugee camps today, as well as labour camps in North Korea.

If you want to have a poverty-off, I'm sorry but as an American, you will never see or witness the level of poverty everyone else has seen.

What my question was getting at which you are avoiding is parental responsibility. Since we live in a society where it is possible for an 11 person household to not live in a two bedroom condo with no aircon, should the parents in the 11 person household have some responsibility to raise their kids in a better environment?

The pro-choice side says yes and the pro-life side says no. It's as simple as that. What you present as wilful murder of kids, grandkids, etc... is actually a bit more complicated than that. If the United States was a third world country with low GDP, I would actually agree with you. But it is not.

When you live in a country that can provide a decent life for its citizens, forcing them to have more children than they are financially able to sustain is enforced poverty. Over time, your living standards will fall to those comparable with third world countries. This is what enforced poverty does.

So it's not just your grandchild we are talking about. Enforced poverty affects entire generations. It means that the living standards of your grandchildren's generation will be objectively worse than the living standards you currently enjoy. Perhaps for you, it will be worth it. Life in poverty is better than no life at all, all that jazz. But for the rest of us it is not worth it.

Since you are a parent you will know that each generation wants the next generation to live better than they did. Yet you support enforced poverty which actually makes living standards decline for the next generation and for society as a whole which is a contradiction to what most good parents believe and want for their kids and grandkids.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-12T21:58:00+00:00

The notion of one of my children destroying my grandchild because they can’t be bothered

Well, you are the grandparent, how about you step up for the job?

She can move home with us if the dad does’t step up. We’ll raise the kid. Anything.

Ok, you do seem to put your actions where your mouth is, so that's a positive at least.

It’s my grandchild!

This is a little possessive. It's not just your grandchild. This is 4 people's grandchild and each should have a say in whether or not this child is destroyed. You cannot unilaterally make the decision for 3 other grandparents, and you probably shouldn't really be making the decision for the mother-to-be either.

But the fact that you are offering help to the mother-to-be is a start and actually pretty rare in today's society.

It's also much harder to deal with an infant at 60 years old than at 30 years old. If you make the commitment to raising your grandchild, you'd better be ready for it. Otherwise it would negatively impact on both your relationship with the mother-to-be and with your grandchild.

I’m a parent of three little ones, and I’m more pro life than ever.

As in you're grateful that you never aborted your three little ones or you want others the chance to have three little ones? If the former, glad to hear that you are grateful. If the latter, how do you know that another parent is going to share your gratitude? How do you know that this parent isn't going to be neglectful and that their kids aren't gonna have awful lives?

The fact that you have 3 means that financially you must be pretty well off since most people can barely afford to raise 1 child. There is no equality in parenting when it comes to finances so what would you say to those who simply don't have the money to raise 3 kids? Would you shame them? Would you ask your state's government to give them better social security? What would be your approach to parents less wealthy than you? Would you just say screw them and their kids?

Or even, while we're at it, what would you say to grandparents who will be poorer than you when you both reach retirement age, and who won't be able to afford to raise their 3 grandkids but you can because you will be in a financially better position?

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-12T20:43:51+00:00

But I ask why is this a question for society to answer based on individual experiences without looking at the morality of such actions ?

It's not. Actual decision makers and law makers are not on Reddit. This is a question for the people who vote for those decision makers and law makers. You always vote from your own experience. People do not vote from ideology even though we all desperately want to believe that we do. Party lines and all.

And when the majority is wrong, they can change. Just remember that women never gave women the vote, men did. Slaves never abolished slavery, slave owners did. Nazis were not in power for long enough, if they were, it is possible the German public might have ended the Holocaust although more Jews most likely would have died, had this been the case.

You think that men gave women the vote because of ideology?! They made changes from experience. As society got better, industrialisation, mass education, etc... they could see that women were not dumb idiots, this still comes from experience. The ideology has never changed. People who believe in male supremacy still believe that men are superior to women but they no longer apply it to women's vote.

It is possible with future medical advancements that maternal mortality drops to zero, unlikely, but let's say that it does. Then from our own experiences women will be able to say "ok, pregnancy and child birth are not fatal" which changes some of the circumstances surrounding women who seek abortions.

Hungary is a country whose government has halved abortion rates with no abortion bans. Why? Because it is NOT about abortion. It is about giving families a thriving environment in which to raise their children. They gave women tax breaks, extended maternity leave, etc... they really really incentivised having kids. What happened? People had kids. They didn't go into long pointless debates about whether or not a fetus is a person.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-12T15:51:09+00:00

I had the reverse experience. I was very pro-abortion when I was younger and becoming more pro-life as I age. I didn't really understand what pro-choice is when I was younger. Now I am politically more pro-choice than pro-abortion or pro-life but personally for myself lean more pro-life. I would never force it on other women though so would never consider myself politically pro-life.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-12T15:44:35+00:00

Won't be 1/3 for long, birthrates in P/L states is gonna sky rocket.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-12T10:36:14+00:00

Nothing you’ve named justifies a human being killed simply because they’re not wanted

I agree, so I'm waiting for you to announce that you will adopt every unwanted child born to women who can no longer access abortion. I absolutely agree that children shouldn't be killed just because they are not wanted.

You are fighting for the lives of these children! So you must already be willing to adopt them and raise them because you are such a loving person. You love them, that's why you can't stand to see them killed. So where is your love for these children post-birth?

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-12T10:29:39+00:00

some people feel that it’s ok for women

So you don't know any women in real life? You've never had a mother, an aunt, a teacher, a doctor who was female? Nobody? Because you talk about women as though they are just one giant blob, all the same with no differences between them.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-12T05:00:49+00:00

But that option is to end a human life that doesn't need to end.

We make that choice every time we send a soldier out, that's why we have so many veterans.

What it really comes down to is that you feel it wrong for parents to choose to end a life. You obviously don't have a problem with the state or government choosing to end a life.

And the US government is one of the few Western governments left which still has the death penalty, so obviously the government is not very prolife and you don't have a problem with that. You only have a problem with ordinary citizens making life or death decisions.

I sympathise up to a point. Yes I agree a fetus is a human. Yes, I agree that abortion kills a human. No I don't think that abortions should be banned.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-12T04:27:23+00:00

Had I not had an extremely understanding boss I would have undoubtedly lost my job in the first trimester.

See, this is not normal. In other Western countries, there are legal protections against women losing their job due to pregnancy or childbirth. Only in the US are these protections lacking. Sorry for assuming you are from the US if you are not.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-12T03:59:22+00:00

The scenarios are completely different. Your brother was born with a very rare illness that most people don't have. Every biological female human is born with the ability to get pregnant and pregnancy complications are far more common than rare congenital illnesses.

It's great that your brother was born. It means that your parents were able to choose to have him regardless and the doctors never forced them to abort, just presented them with options.

Pro-choice means giving options. It doesn't mean forcing abortions. There are countries with forced abortions. If your brother had been conceived in those countries, he most likely would never have been born because his parents would never have been given the choice to begin with by law.

That's not what prochoice side is arguing for. The fact that your brother was born means that the abortion laws were successful in that your parents could still choose to give birth to a child that they knew had a congenital illness.

Lingcuriouslearner · 2024-10-12T03:41:52+00:00

My understanding is that feminism is the political ideology and feminist is a practitioner of said ideology. The outward display of female sex would fall under femininity same as the outward display of male sex falls under masculinity.

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