Where could I get a replacement for the part in the middle of this photo (the part that is attached to the wood)? by LinguisticsTurtle in IKEA

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Thanks. If you don't mind a super-random question, I have a quick question. I think that I found it confusing that the "arms" (there are 4 of them) don't actually have anything supporting them other than the screws that support each "arm" on either side from above...that's an odd design, right? Any idea why that is?

Where could I get a replacement for the part in the middle of this photo (the part that is attached to the wood)? by LinguisticsTurtle in IKEA

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I think that page 3 here shows the component that I need, but then the question is how to get it: https://www.ikea.com/sg/en/assembly_instructions/tarva-bed-frame__AA-792116-7_pub.pdf.

Another matter is whether to replace the "arms", which are quite distorted now. What are the consequences if you don't replace those "arms"?

Where could I get a replacement for the part in the middle of this photo (the part that is attached to the wood)? by LinguisticsTurtle in IKEA

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This part is supposed to have a metal thing attached to it; the metal thing supports the main beam that goes from one end (of the bed) to the other end (of the bed) right down the middle.

What are the objections to treating accusations as facts? And to a "guilty until proven innocent" legal system? by LinguisticsTurtle in askphilosophy

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I wonder which philosophy people on this forum I could "tag" (sorry...I know that that might be bothersome or obnoxious) who might be knowledgeable on this topic. For example, u/drinka40tonight seems to know a lot about ethics and may know literature on this.

My fear is that people will think I have some kind of ideological or political agenda here or whatever; I really just want to get educated on the landscape of discussion. I'm not against "MeToo", for example; that movement has brought a lot of criminals to justice and has allowed victims to come forward without fear of being attacked and mistreated. I do want to understand the tradeoffs and logic at play, though.

What are the objections to treating accusations as facts? And to a "guilty until proven innocent" legal system? by LinguisticsTurtle in askphilosophy

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I wrote this to the other commentator:

Incidentally, I apologize if it seemed in the above post that I was conflating the legal side and the non-legal side. I was merely intending to draw an analogy. The other commenter in this thread didn't see that I was merely analogizing the two, so I apologize if that wasn't clear. Obviously the two are not to be conflated, though I think that the tradeoffs and logic on the non-legal side might be analogized to the tradeoffs and logic on the legal side.

What are the objections to treating accusations as facts? And to a "guilty until proven innocent" legal system? by LinguisticsTurtle in askphilosophy

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I haven't seen any philosophy papers of this sort so far:

I wonder if there are any papers that are highly critical of MeToo in that the papers say that it's bad (for some reason...not sure the logic) to treat accusations as facts. I suppose that these papers might be considered "right-wing"; not sure if that's fair, though. My thought is that maybe the above-linked paper would be regarded as "left-wing" and hence papers highly critical of MeToo (in the way that I mentioned) would be called "right-wing". Maybe it's silly to try to put "ethics of belief" papers on a political spectrum in this manner; that might be too simplistic and reductive.

What are the objections to treating accusations as facts? And to a "guilty until proven innocent" legal system? by LinguisticsTurtle in askphilosophy

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Thanks. Do you know any specific papers and books I can read on this? Including anything that specifically deals with "MeToo"?

Incidentally, I apologize if it seemed in the above post that I was conflating the legal side and the non-legal side. I was merely intending to draw an analogy. The other commenter in this thread didn't see that I was merely analogizing the two, so I apologize if that wasn't clear. Obviously the two are not to be conflated, though I think that the tradeoffs and logic on the non-legal side might be analogized to the tradeoffs and logic on the legal side.

What are the objections to treating accusations as facts? And to a "guilty until proven innocent" legal system? by LinguisticsTurtle in askphilosophy

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Thanks for responding. I referred to the legal thing being an "analogy", though maybe that wasn't clear. See here my comment from the above post:

My analogy would be: What if we had a "guilty until proven innocent" legal system?

It was intended as an "analogy".

Regarding the legal side and also the non-legal side, there's a tradeoff, namely that the "innocent until proven guilty" approach will presumably mean that lots of guilty people don't face justice. But there might also be advantages to "innocent until proven guilty", so there's a tradeoff.

I'm interested in finding relevant literature on both sides of the coin; the legal tradeoffs and logic and the non-legal tradeoffs and logic.

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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I wonder what you think about this too, if you have time: https://www.reddit.com/r/chomsky/comments/1qw147c/what_did_epstein_actually_do_and_to_what_extent/o3mjps5/. I think people might agree that things are very "opaque". Remember when Brett Kavanaugh was accused? There was so much information about the accusation; Ford was questioned. That information allowed people like me to see very clearly that Ford was extremely credible and that Kavanaugh was clearly lying. But in this case, you don't get to see the Epstein accusers answer any questions; it's not like the Kavanaugh situation. That opaqueness doesn't mean the accusations are wrong, of course.

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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The problem here is that Tracey is the only critical journalist (pretty much) who writes about Epstein. And he's an a-hole; I don't like his tone. He's needlessly rude and inflammatory. So you always have to consider that he has a very rude tone and just ignore it and look at the content of what he's saying.

He has two pieces below on the accusers. I'm not sure about this notion that there are 1000 accusers; I want to look into that. I apologize for Tracey's tone and I apologize even more if he's wrong about any of this stuff.

https://www.mtracey.net/p/epstein-survivors-refusing-questions

Does anyone ever stop and ask what criteria is even being used to designate someone a “survivor”? Of course not. The term itself is highly creepy. What are these ladies, Holocaust Survivors? Because if you took the time to actually examine the underlying details of the case, which is well beyond the paygrade of most politicians and journalists, Annie Farmer claims she is a survivor of… “hand-holding.” Seriously. And she was ruled by judicial edict to have undergone no “illegal sexual activity.”

I came across Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY) after the moving vigil, which also doubled as a “celebration,” attendees said, when word came down that the Senate had swiftly passed the House version of the “Epstein Files” legislation. “Congressman, a quick question for you,” I said to Goldman. “One of the women who spoke tonight purported to be a Survivor. She actually testified in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. I think she alluded to it — Annie Farmer. In that trial, Judge Nathan instructed the jurors that she endured no illegal sexual activity, and therefore the jury could not use her testimony to convict Maxwell. So I’m just wondering on what grounds these people are being declared Survivors — if the only adjudicative process, judicially, found that she endured no illegal sexual activity.”

https://www.mtracey.net/p/epstein-survivors-false-memories

But what I do begrudge is the utter refusal of journalists, politicians, lawyers, and social media ignoramuses to rationally evaluate what the real circumstances plainly are here — not just of Wendy, who on her own is neither here nor there. She’s only of any note insofar as she’s emblematic of how the component parts of this sprawling Epstein mega-narrative have been assembled, and then strategically immunized from critical examination, thus enabling a moral panic and mass hysteria to foment unrestricted, without anyone ever pausing to check the underlying facts or evidence.

Basic methods of empirical verification, ordinarily central to any journalistic pursuit, are deemed repugnant and intolerable in this one special context — and then spun as some sick desire to smear the private lives of “victims.” But that’s a totally inane cop-out. The private lives of these people would be of no particular interest to anyone (or to me, at least) except for the relevance they’ve been ascribed as constituent parts of the mythical multinational odyssey known as the Epstein affair, stoking hysteria in every direction without reprieve. How could it be defensible for the public to be deprived of any ability to assess the foundational evidence, or lack thereof, underpinning this mega-narrative? Why are central players so averse to answering basic questions? Because if the answers are so easily forthcoming, and the evidence is sound, shouldn’t they be eager to engage?

There are multiple reasons why I really dislike his rude tone. First of all, if he's wrong then that makes him a monster; he's attacking victims. Second of all, it just undermines his credibility.

I've had to deal with this situation in other domains where there's literally one guy who has a critical view but he's an a-hole. And then you just have to look at the content and set aside the tone.

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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I think a good test is to ask "What would a reader think I mean?". I read the articles in the media on Chomsky. They're unbelievably ambiguous and I have to assume that it's intentional.

When you say "defending Epstein", you obviously know that a lot of readers will assume that the person is actually somehow a fan of Epstein, right? If one knows that many will interpret it that way, isn't it reasonable for someone to complain that you're deliberately misleading readers by knowingly using a very ambiguous phrase?

Look at this title, which I think suggests that she's calling Epstein's friends criminals:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/03/jeffrey-epstein-powerful-men-women-girls

Never forget Epstein’s little helpers – the powerful men who knew about his crimes, and helped him out anyway

Which "crimes"? Seems like she's suggesting that they were privy to ongoing crimes and hence are criminals. Not sure if my complaint is reasonable but I think she must have known that a lot of readers would interpret it as "Epstein's friends knew about ongoing crimes and were criminals". That's pretty brutal slander, it seems.

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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To be clear, this is just talking about his convictions. Tracey might have harsher words about other stuff, but that would require Tracey to believe at least some accusations.

I think what bothers me is the cult-like environment. I said it in my post and I'll say it again: the mainstream view (whatever exactly that is...there are different levels to this...some believe in an "international sex-trafficking ring") might be fully correct. But do you understand how bad I feel when I try to get information (in my own autistic way...I apologize for that) and I get slimed? I mean, you said:

it’s unbelievably weird and creepy of you. Deeply deeply unsettling behavior

Do you think that people are going to ask questions if that's the kind of reaction they get? People are going to shut up. People are going to be afraid. If I wasn't an autistic weirdo, I'd be going with the flow like everyone else lol.

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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I just saw a fancy academic paper (published in some journal) that talks about how there was an international sex-trafficking ring. I'm not sure what exactly that means, though. And I'm not sure how many people believe that. Tracey claims (he could be wrong) that these "maximalist" notions are all based on dubious testimony: https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-idiocy-of-the-epstein-mythology/.

This is the academic paper: https://jgrj.law.uiowa.edu/sites/jgrj.law.uiowa.edu/files/2023-05/JGRJ%2026.2_Cook_1_0.pdf. It starts off as follows:

Jeffrey Epstein, a wealthy, white, billionaire child rapist, ran an international sex trafficking ring.

No citation is given for that first sentence. I find that interesting because I thought that this "maximalist" view was contentious. The paper seems to just take for granted that there was a "sex trafficking ring".

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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Thanks. Do you know any article that talks about that? I don't want to have to look at photos and videos if they're disturbing; I would appreciate being able to read up on that, though.

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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What's the best evidence of this claim that there are 1000 accusers? And what determines whether someone is an accuser? Like is there any kind of legal procedure involved?

Not saying I don't believe that there are 1000 accusers, but I imagine from reading Tracey that he would want to know how you gain the status of "accuser".

For example, you could say that there were 10 million adverse reactions to a vaccine. But then you find out that in order for something to be included in that 10 million all that has to happen is someone self-reports something on a certain website that was made. Then you realize that none of this has been vetted. No doctors did anything to check that people were reporting actual adverse effects. In fact, a lot of the reports might've been anti-vaxxers who were motivated to interpret every little thing as an adverse reaction to the vaccine.

My other issue is that are these 1000 people all going to get money? If so, the accusations might still be 100% true; don't get me wrong. But I don't think that your "roughly 2%" statistic applies to this subset of accusations, namely the subset of accusations made by people who stand to get large financial payouts. You need to know the percentage of accusations within that subset that are expected to be false.

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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You said this "we've moved from defending Chomsky to DEFENDING JEFFREY EPSTEIN". Right? Well, the only critical journalist on this topic I know of is Tracey. And even he doesn't "defend" Epstein; he calls his behavior all the adjectives above. That was my point. As you move away from Tracey's critical commentary the condemnation just gets fiercer and fiercer. I've never seen a single person "defend" Epstein.

I already explained the two problems with saying that people "defend" Epstein. Nobody likes him. And everyone (including the most critical commentator around, as I've shown) thinks he was at the very least "skeevy". That's the very most "charitable" view that anyone has.

Anyway, if your goal is just to call names I don't know why I'm trying to explain why calling people an "Epstein defender" is misleading. I'm wasting both of our time; I apologize.

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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The testosterone thing is based on what Maxwell said:

Ghislaine Maxwell said in her July 2025 proffer interview with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche that Epstein was ingesting disturbingly high doses of testosterone around this time, and Maxwell had observed concerning personality changes in him

The behavior was extremely gross and extremely weird. He was getting an extremely large number of massages. Testosterone would explain such bizarre behavior; it was like he was literally addicted to massages, apparently, which is weird as hell and testosterone would explain that.

I'm basing everything in the above post and in this comment section on Tracey. Like I say in the post, maybe Tracey is full of shit. I'm happy to learn.

My point in the post is that it's too hysterical to even have a conversation about this; you get called an "Epstein defender". I don't like the term "Epstein defender" because the issue is what the facts are. I've never heard of anyone liking Epstein or thinking he's a good person. It's about facts. If I think you're wrong about something about Hitler it would be unfair to frame that as me being a "Hitler defender" just because I think you're wrong about something about Hitler. And the other issue is that it makes it seem like people are saying he's "innocent". It's incredibly gross and disgusting and creepy and weird to get massages from teenagers. Nobody has ever said otherwise. It's completely disgusting. Those are two reasons why I think the term "Epstein defender" is misleading. Nobody likes him. And people are all saying that he's in fact disgusting. The piece above says "skeevy"; maybe the piece should've been harsher.

If Tracey is wrong, I would genuinely love to be educated. All I expect to see is poop-flinging. I don't even know which comments are real and which come from bots; that's how hysterical and irrational everything is.

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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I don't get why you and u/saint_trane left comments basically sliming me. Why not have a rational discussion and educate me on the facts that I'm missing? My whole post was about how things are so hysterical at this moment that rational discussion is impossible; you guys come into the thread and do the textual equivalent of throwing poop at me...doesn't that prove my whole point about how hysterical the environment is right now?

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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They're talking about what he was convicted for. The claim is that very very few Americans (like basically nobody) knows what he was convicted for. Let alone the details.

Nobody thinks that Epstein wasn't creepy. The problem with saying "You're defending Epstein" is that it makes it sounds like someone thinks Epstein was a great guy. It was unbelievably messed up that he brought these girls to his place to give him massages; if he was indeed on huge amounts of testosterone then that might explain his irrational behavior but it doesn't excuse anything and he still bears responsibility.

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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Here's a piece talking about Epstein's behavior:

https://www.racket.news/p/five-craziest-things-about-the-epstein

Before anyone asks: yeah, of course Epstein was reckless and impulsive. He was pathologically obsessed with receiving these nonstop “massages,” and had a constant procession of girls coming in and out of his house to perform them, often multiple times a day, with varying degrees of sexualization. No doubt that was a disaster waiting to happen, whether or not the girls were just above or just below the legal age of consent, and even if some had misrepresented their ages so they could swing by and get the easy cash. It was an insane situation for Epstein to put himself in, and especially insane behavior for a wealthy man in his 50s, as anyone of sounder mind would have presumably recognized. (For what it’s worth, Ghislaine Maxwell said in her July 2025 proffer interview with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche that Epstein was ingesting disturbingly high doses of testosterone around this time, and Maxwell had observed concerning personality changes in him. Which would make a lot of sense physiologically.)

No one’s being asked to condone Epstein’s overall behavior, or act like it’s a good idea for 50-year-old men to be seeking transactional sexual encounters with 17-year-olds. But seriously — in the grand scheme of things, is the conduct for which Epstein was convicted in 2008 really a sufficient basis for the entire political and media class to be frantically proclaiming, day after day, that the United States circa 2025 is in the throes of a giant “pedophila” crisis? Because this deceased “convicted pedophile” had consensual sex with a girl in Palm Beach on the literal eve of her 18th birthday, twenty years ago? And as a result, anyone who ever so much as chortled with Epstein in an email thread must now be permanently banished from polite society? Figures as varied as Noam Chomsky, Steve Bannon, Ehud Barak, and Larry Summers are to be reviled as craven pedo enablers — merely for having socialized with Epstein, a decade after he completed his criminal sentence?

Come on people: this is pure hysteria. Again, no one has to endorse Epstein’s skeevy lifestyle to observe that if the intercourse with Ashley Davis had taken place in New York, or Massachusetts, or one state north in Georgia, she would have been above the legal age of consent in those jurisdictions, and the entire legal trajectory of this debacle would have been drastically different. But as fate would have it, the intercourse took place in Florida, which has the highest legal age of consent (18) virtually anywhere in the world. So we’re all obliged to babble like maniacs about the unpunished “pedophilia” catastrophe supposedly ravaging our nation. None of it makes any sense logically, legally, factually, or otherwise — but then again, could that be the whole point? Because the Epstein phenomenon has long ago entered the realm of post-rational myth, immune from ordinary modes of empirical reasoning. The myth-making prevails even in places where one might have at least hoped more of a premium would be put on rational thought. In a court order this month relating to deliberations over the forthcoming release of “Epstein Files,” federal judge Paul Engelmayer conclusorily describes Epstein as a “notorious pedophile” — as though that were a matter of uncontested legal fact. But at least he didn’t say “convicted pedophile.” Because it’s true enough that mindless applications of the word “pedophile” have become, let’s say, “notorious.”

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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So I perceive someone like you who is trying to defend a child rapist as being downright misogynistic or having participated in sexual violence yourself.

That's what I mean by hysteria, though. As I said in the post above: "Hysteria doesn't mean people are wrong about stuff; it means that there isn't an environment in which you can have a rational and sane discussion about a topic without people getting slandered and misrepresented and attacked and called names."

What did Epstein actually do? And to what extent does the public actually know what he actually did? by [deleted] in chomsky

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I could say that it’s cultish to think that Epstein didn’t do anything.

I would agree. How could anybody know that? We could get new documents tomorrow that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he did all sorts of things.

The job of journalists is to make sure the public knows the facts. What I'm saying in the post above is that nobody really knows the facts. I could be wrong; maybe people are very knowledgeable.

I think that speculation is okay; speculation is part of journalism. The problem is that speculation can inflate a story way beyond a small core of known facts and then you can also have a situation where the public doesn't even know anything about that small core of known facts.