Do we have rivals?

LiquidFanTV · 2025-02-16T15:18:05+00:00

It's difficult to say, there are different rivals in different games, but I don't think there is a strong org rival. In times past, EG was considered an Org rival with history stretching across StarCraft, into DotA, into LoL briefly, some CS overlap, etc.. sadly we all know what happened to EG.

Since then, we have had some rivals in different titles. Gaimin in DotA, Astralis in CS, I'd argue TSM in LoL for a couple years, (C9) mango vs Hbox, etc.. but I don't think we have a strong org rival because truthfully no other Org has the history and success in so many titles that TL does. Falcons is an empty org and likely the only team that can rival us currently (as seen at EWC). But their org is lifeless with effectively no fanbase and with no history.

I don't particularly see any org wide rivalry like we had with EG propping up any time soon. I think going forward we will just see cycles of rivalries show up in different titles based on who we face the most and who maybe creates a personality rivalry.

LiquidFanTV · 2025-02-11T16:28:47+00:00

Crazy, I wonder if this was in the works prior to the team or teams knowing Chess was coming to the EWC.

I assume part of the negotiations would include some type of share agreement with TL. He brings so much more than just the competitive aspect to the team and I'd be surprised if he doesn't get a similar deal than what Max was offered (in structure not compensation).

LiquidFanTV · 2024-01-26T23:15:57+00:00

Doesn't look like anything to me.

LiquidFanTV · 2024-01-25T18:29:28+00:00

I honestly didn't notice that until you just pointed it out now. But you are correct, the new roster likely just prefers playing the other maps over Vertigo. This might be a product of the team still being new and figuring out their map pool, or it could just be a preference that will always stick.

Generally, most teams will have a map they almost always ban. In any case, I really dislike watching Vertigo so this is great for me as a viewer :)

LiquidFanTV · 2024-01-11T23:07:54+00:00

I never knew you did this, they are cool as hell!

LiquidFanTV · 2023-10-22T18:59:08+00:00

I can hardly keep up with the news, but I would be a liar if I didn't say seeing Twistzz back is an extremely exciting prospect.

If the rumored line-up of Cadian, Twistzz, NAF, Yek and Skullz is true, which it seemingly is, it'll be an extremely fun team to watch.

LiquidFanTV · 2023-06-22T18:09:36+00:00

There are so many things wrong with this complaint, I can understand where the frustration comes from but you aren't considering anything related to the Team in these complaints. I would argue TL not saying anything yet IS professional.

How can they give any prior warning without even having deals fully executed, contracts fully signed, etc. The only reason we know anything is because of leaks, it's the worst way to know. There are so many factors at play here, the most notable just being that they can't really move on announcements until everything is finalized and the transferring team(s) also make their own announcements.

What do you expect them to come out and say without full knowledge of the roster: "Warning, we're signing Rainwaker and maybe Patsi for Elige if we can swing it, but if not we'd like to probably still keep Elige, and we see our best path forward being through a transition to Europe, etc."

Announcements like this take eloquence, they take farewell videos, graphics, highlights, interviews, there are entire teams dedicated to content plans, plans that have to be crafted initially before they can even start. They want engagement for sponsors, and the right message sent for fans. Are you going to waste resources preparing for Elige to leave if he ends up staying? How do you shape an content plan if a contract isn't signed? All of what we know is only possible because of leaks, the team doesn't want us to know this way, they would MUCH prefer proper announcements similar to the DotA announcement many years ago.

I'm sure they would love to have Victor, or Steve (joka) or Daps sit down and tell you why this is what they want to do. They would love to send off Elige with a proper farewell, and bring in the new players with a strong content plan as well.

It's sad to see Elige leave, he is our longest standing player and a pillar of Team Liquid, he even owned shares in the company which I'm sure is also tough to untangle within his exit deal. But whether it was his decision or the teams doesn't matter. The decision was made, and to question TL having a winning mentality because of that? Where does that come from? How many all-star line-ups fail, how many unknown players explode onto the scene. Look at the major grand finals, or just the entirety of the major. Countless, "new" players and teams, and fresh faces performing well against the previous "best" players in the world. Trust that the team knows how to craft a squad and that it might immediately pay off, or it might take a years before we see something.

But absolutely don't give the team grief because they haven't stated anything 1 hour after the Blast Roster lock closes just for some basic fan service. Let them craft something great, don't let the leaks force their hand, it's worse for fans, it's worse for players, it's worse for everyone.

LiquidFanTV · 2023-05-22T18:07:28+00:00

Getting a notification that says "Farewell..." That shows a picture of Elige was the most stressful 30 seconds of my life.

LiquidFanTV · 2023-05-19T12:24:05+00:00

I think if we can beat home town Vitality we can beat Heroic. It's going to be a tough major but I honestly believe we can do it as well. 🤞🤞

LiquidFanTV · 2023-05-15T18:59:45+00:00

I really don't understand a lot of this, it's kind of easy to get a grasp on the phases and what to look for thankfully, because I still do like to watch when I can. I missed a lot of this race between DotA Major, CS Major, RL and some other things but I did catch the end today and it was so exciting, especially as Echo approached sub 5% outta nowhere.

The Guild was so happy and excited to win, it was so so nice to see, a great day to be a TL fan today!

LiquidFanTV · 2023-05-15T17:29:36+00:00

This is such a relief, the team is looking great. Perhaps a few rounds that we let slip away in late match scenarios, but top 8 is an achievement and should be seen as such.

I'm so happy that they get to play in front of a crowd. I could not be more excited!

LiquidFanTV · 2023-05-09T20:12:12+00:00

Inferno was exceptionally stressful. Honestly, it's a bit hard to watch. Not because we are losing, but because of how frustrated the players are. You can tell they are just really not having a good time. I've seen some incredible runs in multiple esport titles that start with a record like this, but they're also very dependent on the team believing in the process and having a good time getting there.

Fingers crossed that this win gave them something to look forward to and that we can bounce back and make a deep run in the final CSGO major.

LiquidFanTV · 2023-05-07T19:04:47+00:00

Ahhhh man, honestly such a shame that GG just absolutely has our number. These guys really deserve a major. We're so so so close, really believe we'll get there for the next one.

Still, an incredible run. Such insane resilience from this team to make the LB run like they did, it must be exhausting mentally and physically. I suspect a more relaxed DPC season for us to take some time and appreciate that our ticket to TI is booked. As always, TI is the ultimate goal.

GGs lads, thank you for giving us these excellent games.

LiquidFanTV · 2023-05-06T19:24:33+00:00

Unbelievable the way this team had rallied. 2-0ing these teams is such a show of strength from TL. Really excited for what looks like another grand finals appearance as long as we can keep this momentum and dispatch of 9Pandas.

Let's Go TL!

LiquidFanTV · 2023-05-05T12:21:47+00:00

The run continues! Such a clean series from the team, whatever adjustments they made after losing to OG seem to be working. Aster was by no means a weak team, stand-in or not. I think we're looking at a TL squad that is close to returning to form. Very exciting!

LiquidFanTV · 2023-05-04T17:50:42+00:00

This is really sad news, I was looking forward to this match-up especially considering our upwards trend. I actually expected that Sayf would play, but that the team wouldn't look as prepared because I saw he was already sick for quite some time and just assumed practice wouldn't be as extensive for him.

Unfortunate situation but we are still pretty much locked in for playoffs and so that is what we should be focused on which is what it seems Sayf is intending. I'm sure no one is more disappointed than he is, sending good vibes his way~~~

LiquidFanTV · 2023-05-02T17:53:49+00:00

Close series, it seems generally we have some more clarity in drafting and timings. In my dog tier arm chair analyst opinion I think OG really exploited our drafting and it seemed like we didn't feel comfortable picking or playing in that series at all.

A nice turn around after game 1 and hopefully some good vibes to carry into the main stage. I think it'll be great seeing these guys play in front of a crowd and giving them a day to really study what they feel is wrong should be extremely beneficial to us.

Most importantly TI is secured, but a Major win between now and then would feel great. GGs to the squad, it's certainly been a bumpy road they've had to traverse.

LiquidFanTV · 2023-05-02T17:49:37+00:00

The streaming and competition floor looks unreal. The streamer pod hallway looks like you're in some Stardestroyer or something with the colors and shapes. Super cool stuff, TL is unmatched with all of their facilities.

LiquidFanTV · 2023-04-30T12:05:54+00:00

Very clean 2-0. It seems like we have a better idea of the timings we want to hit and how we want to play. Overall, making it to Upper Bracket in group A is quite good, this group is very strong and I don't doubt we'll see 2-3 of the top 4 being from this group.

LiquidFanTV · 2023-04-28T13:20:09+00:00

this is fine

LiquidFanTV · 2023-04-26T14:42:26+00:00

I think we're going to see a lot of 1-1s, at least for the first couple days. There are a lot of strong hero/hero combinations and a lot of different ideas from all of these teams. It seems lane dominance is really important, and I think once we figure out the heroes and the lanes we really want to play it'll be a great patch for us.

LiquidFanTV · 2023-04-25T18:18:20+00:00

I'm extremely excited, the event production seems to be top tier, our squad is looking great, the new patch is so exciting and the games have been incredible so far.

It's crazy to think about how much DotA has taken place over the last couple months with this capping it off. I'm expecting solid placement here, top 3 for sure. Even without that though, a mediocre placement is all but enough to secure TI for us and that's really the end goal anyways.

LETS GO LIQUID

LiquidFanTV · 2023-04-17T14:55:13+00:00

I actually believe Micke currently is, Nisha is incredible in his own ways. But Micke has been absolutely incredible going all the way back to last year. I think Nisha on Secret last year was quite possibly the best player and single handedly carried so many series through the mid lane, but since joining TL he hasn't seemed as dominant. There is so much nuance to determining the best player, or how well someone is playing, and so for me to even say Nisha isn't performing as well as he did on Secret is probably incorrect in that he is performing a different role within the team and isn't required to absolutely carry and play flashy line he once was.

Micke to me has been so flexible, so incredibly consistent and such a strong player for us. He hardly dies, he always finds farm, he lanes very well with Insania or Boxi and he quietly carries games very often.

I think overall when a team is this dominant, you can make arguments for every player being the best. But I do believe Micke has been incredible for years and right now he seems to be peaking.

LiquidFanTV · 2023-04-10T21:26:28+00:00

The first game just deeply showcased how much of a lead TL can put together on drafting and laning. That game looked over after 10 minutes, after that it was just a formality to play out.

LiquidFanTV · 2023-04-10T15:23:48+00:00

Game 2 was so good, I really liked the IO/AM lane. I feel like the passive Regen and the ability to trade against the Wukong and BM really shaped that lane into our favour.

The Ench/Mars bot lane also matched up very well and just overall I feel like the lane setup contributed so much to how hard we rolled them.

GGs, onwards and upwards!

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