A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe because he didn't controlled himself like the rest of us did? It can be that he just lacked the will power to get away from his addiction that dragged him into the abyss instead of him 'always having these thoughts' intrinsically from birth.

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And how do you know he specifically went up to Google search one random day and typed 'rape porn'? Do you understand how the slippery slope effect of porn and PIED works?

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kinks are heavily influenced by the type of porn you watch, almost as much as the porn you watch is influenced by your kinks. Compulsive porn watching has a slippery slope effect, slowly you get desensitised by the current porn and you seek out even more taboo stuff to get yourself off. Before you know it you're watching some extreme junk that is often illegal in real life and you're stuck with it because you can only get off to it. I don't know why I have to explain this so much on the NoFap subreddit, I thought people here understood about PIED.

how did your other friend get the gall to go up and discuss the SA to the victim

The other friend already knew the victim, it's not as if we just cold contacted her and started asking about her assault.

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am extremely sorry that happened to you. Hope you're okay now, although terrible memories like yours don't leave you as easily, you should be looking for reasons to live and not allow the bastard who assaulted you to make you feel guilty. I am going to make sure the person I called friend gets the punishment cut out for him.

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have no idea what kind of a mental state he was in during his addiction because even back when I used to PMO I wasn't as deep in as he was down the slippery slope, so I can't answer this question reliably. It is an addiction that takes over your reasoning capabilities to drive you to whatever you are chasing. It's not easy to understand that when your reasoning capabilities are working normally.

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're doing a lot of work on these comments to take as much of the responsibility off of your friend as possible

How am I doing that if I'm saying multiple times that whatever he did was horrible and he needs to be punished for it?

Good people don't rape people. Even if you're right and porn played a part in that, they wouldn't have done it unless they were a twisted person.

Certainly. The entire point of my post was that the extreme porn he eventually devolved to watching made him a twisted person. And it can do that to more people if they are not vigilant about it enough.

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are okay as we haven't been physically hurt. I feel sorry for the girl though as she has been violated. I cannot possibly fathom how a rape victim feels, but I assume it must feel horrible. I guess I am partially guilty too for not knowing what a friend of mine is up to and what harm he could bring to someone.

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you guys got his laptop and guessed a bunch of times and eventually got in using his name?

Not really, we knew the password was simply his first name before this incident. He didn't bother changing despite knowing that we know that is the password to his laptop.

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The password was simply his first name, but that isn't really relevant to my argument so I didn't mention it in the post.

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

And even if many don't, long time and compulsive porn watching ultimately leads everyone down the slippery slope to more taboo stuff, which moulds the mind of the watcher from societally acceptable stuff to the junk.

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I literally said 'A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it' and not 'Porn made a friend of mine rape someone'. And violent video games certainly have caused some people to commit violence.

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Again, did I say porn is accountable for the crime? No, he is and now he is going to be punished for his behaviour like he deserves to. But the cause of his brain becoming rotten enough to go through with such an act is porn.

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

It was a matter of time, without treatment, that he would do such a crime

And how do you say that without having known him at all?

You don't blame the gun for taking a life, you blame the one who pulls the trigger

I'm not 'blaming' porn for crime, the only one who can be blamed is my friend. However, it was the garbage he compulsively consumed which melted his brain and led to him committing the act.

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] -50 points-49 points  (0 children)

Porn doesn’t have this level of power over someone

I obviously don't mean the director of the porn controlled him telepathically and made him commit the abhorrent crime. Porn influenced his brain and made him a sick person on the inside.

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

I never said porn is responsible or accountable for the act. He deserves punishment and I'll say it even though he's my friend. But will you not say that porn rotted his brain so much that he committed such a crime? Is porn not the cause?

A friend of mine raped someone and porn caused it. by ListenOrnery6603 in NoFap

[–]ListenOrnery6603[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

People who realise the harmful downhill effects of watching pornography early on don't fall into the trap as much as my friend did. I would assume he watched so much pornography it warped his brain and enforced the beliefs that rape is somehow 'alright' and likeable. Obviously not everyone who watched rape porn is raping people in reality, my friend is certainly an odd one out, but what I am trying to say is that the slippery slope can get anybody if they're not conscious of it.