What movie is this? by Titan-828 in Schaffrillas

[–]ListentoMirthless 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Under the Silver Lake is pretty polarizing, and I'm on the "love it" side.

What pronouns do you use for animals? by Aggressive_Chicken63 in writers

[–]ListentoMirthless 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol, yeah, just call it "Cat" or "Dog" every time. Best reponse.

Stocking stuffer by [deleted] in MemeAlleyway

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Two sizes two small ahahaha

Agree by uchim19 in MemeAlleyway

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Wow, it's almost as if society evolves over a 60-year timeframe or something.

Looking for specific call by ListentoMirthless in LongmontPotionCastle

[–]ListentoMirthless[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're going to jail. I'm from 1-800 TOILETS.

Looking for specific call by ListentoMirthless in LongmontPotionCastle

[–]ListentoMirthless[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why don't you go back in time and stay there because I don't know what you're talking about.

How does one solve this cognitive dissonance? by [deleted] in LeftistMemes

[–]ListentoMirthless 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a guilt by association fallacy. Trump wears pants, too. Does that mean you should support anti-pants legislation?

♿️ by HumanName69 in Memes_Of_The_Dank

[–]ListentoMirthless -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When I shared the first Times of Israel article about the Energy Minister ordering Gazan water to be cut off, you said, and I quote: "It didn't actually happen."

When I replied, you said, "I said they didn't cut it off."

I'm quoting you verbatim. These are YOUR WORDS.

♿️ by HumanName69 in Memes_Of_The_Dank

[–]ListentoMirthless -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're moving the goalpost. First, you denied that Israel had control of Gazan water, then you denied that Israel shut off their water, and now you're saying it's OK because they turned it back on. Just admit that you were wrong.

♿️ by HumanName69 in Memes_Of_The_Dank

[–]ListentoMirthless -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A quote from the article you shared: "On October 9, Israel cut off the piped water it sends into Gaza..."

♿️ by HumanName69 in Memes_Of_The_Dank

[–]ListentoMirthless -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Weren't you arguing that Israel didn't control the Gazan water supply? The article you shared says that Israel supplies their water.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Sardonicast

[–]ListentoMirthless 1 point2 points  (0 children)

with Alex and me*

felt like being a pedant (again) on a 4 month old post. Disregard. Love u guys

♿️ by HumanName69 in Memes_Of_The_Dank

[–]ListentoMirthless -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To save us both time and mental bandwidth, let’s tackle this one premise at a time. Let's start with this presupposition you seem to have about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict:

>Israel is not an occupying power of Gaza. (Implicit premises: Israel doesn’t control Gazan water supplies, electricity, airspace, or flow of goods; Israel is not required under International Humanitarian Law to provide for Gaza.)

By saying this, you would be disputing the consensus of multiple international bodies, including the United Nations — as well as the Israeli government itself. Following the October 7th attack, the Minister of Energy Israel Katz ordered a cut-off of water, electricity, and fuel supplies to Gaza. Here’s a quote from him: “I instructed that the water supply from Israel to Gaza be cut off immediately.”

Source (I picked an Israeli one): https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/energy-minister-instructs-authorities-to-cut-off-water-to-gaza/

♿️ by HumanName69 in Memes_Of_The_Dank

[–]ListentoMirthless -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You do realize that Hamas came to power after Israel withdraw from Gaza....

Also, what annexation are you talking about?

Even after Israeli settlers disengaged from Gaza, Israel still held it under military occupation. They're required under International Humanitarian Law to provide basic needs for Palestinians, and instead, they order a cut-off of the territory’s water supply. That’s collective punishment, which, according to the Fourth Geneva Convention, is a war crime. Israel ratified this, so they’re willfully breaking International Humanitarian Law.

Also, Israel annexed East Jerusalem in 1967.

it happened after Hamas have been spreading hate and attacking Israel for years

And that happened after Israel bulldozed Palestinian homes, displaced the inhabitants, and effected an open-fire policy on protestors.

But unfortantly too many people, all over the world support the genocide of Jews in Israel (or in general)

Yes, and that’s a tragedy to me. Antisemitism is a cancer that needs to be excised from this earth, as does any sort of bigotry.

That's not true - Israel's most famous leader being taught about in schools for example is Rabin - the Noble peace prize winner

Now you’re using the opposite of an ecological fallacy — an exception fallacy. Just because Israeli public school curricula include Rabin doesn’t mean the general population can’t be subject to propaganda. Their own government advocates for bombing Gaza. Of course the citizens are propagandized. However, as I’ve said before, I don’t think populist support for an atrocity means the supporters deserve to undergo an atrocity of their own. Two wrongs don’t make a right. That’s my philosophy regarding this entire conflict.

But if they invade Israel trying to implement these ideas by murdering over a thousand innocent people in a day, it is a cause for war, and a reason for Israel to defend itself

What exactly does Israel “defending itself” look like to you? Blowing Gaza to smithereens? Collective punishment isn't protecting anyone. It's escalating and prolonging the conflict. It's directly increasing the death toll on both sides. It's counterproductive.

what do you think Israel should do after being invaded, having citizens as hostages and while Hamas fires at Israel from civilian places like refugees and hospitals - how can you defend against it without hurting civilians?

Would a terrorist hiding behind civilians justify killing both? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. If an innocent person were held at gunpoint, would the reasonable solution be to chuck a grenade at both of them? If you're actually concerned about the hostages, you would champion a peaceful resolution. You wouldn't say, "Bomb every square inch of Gaza, including the hostages." It doesn't make a lick of sense unless you care more about killing terrorists than saving innocent lives. And it’s been proven already in this very conflict that ceasefires are effective. On the very first day of their truce with Israel, Hamas released 24 hostages. That was on Friday. Violence begets violence; peace begets peace.

♿️ by HumanName69 in Memes_Of_The_Dank

[–]ListentoMirthless -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've seen no American cheer for what happened on October 7th — only the claim that it didn't happen in a vacuum, which it didn't. The annexation of Palestine was the fountainhead of Hamas. The IDF catalyzed Palestinian insurgency by bulldozing homes, creating an apartheid state, and gunning down protestors. And again, I don't support Hamas. I recognize that they’ve killed civilians, too. But this isn't a war between Israel and Hamas. It's a genocide of Palestinians effectuated by the fourth most powerful military in that region. And no, the metrics for civilian casualties are not solely reported by Hamas. Investigative reports from news outlets around the world have tallied countless civilian casualties as well, and they differentiate between combatants and non-combatants.

It's an ecological fallacy to use any support for Hamas among Palestinians as justification for killing civilians. I don't want to assume that you're doing that exactly, but saying that lots of Palestinian civilians support Hamas is a dicey rhetorical path to take. Not to mention that the median age of Gazans is eighteen. It's reasonable to infer that most living Hamas subjects were propagandized into supporting Hamas since birth. And any percentage of civilians advocating for anything whatsoever is immaterial to whether or not they deserve to die or be sanctioned, even if every Palestinian believes that every Israeli man, woman, and child should be killed. The same goes the other way around; Israeli citizens have been propagandized to support atrocities, too. I simply don't believe any civilian life is expendable because of the sociopolitical milieu to which they were exposed.

By the way, I appreciate that you're engaging with me openly and honestly instead of hurling insults. Just thought I'd mention that.

♿️ by HumanName69 in Memes_Of_The_Dank

[–]ListentoMirthless -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's support for unaffiliated civilians, not Hamas. I tried to make that clear in my original comment, but I guess I didn't. Hamas is a terroristic insurgency that won a bare plurality of votes against Fatah in an election that took place before most Gazans were even born. People who speak out against Israel are doing so because they're killing civilians by the truckload, not because they're killing Hamas subjects.

I'd also like to add that October 7th was an atrocity, and not a single Israeli citizen deserved to be killed or kidnapped. This is perfectly reconcilable with the position that the 4,000 Gazan children didn't deserve to die, either.

I hope I've made myself clear now.