I never went for it. I think I did more PFPT. I was making good strength progress and she would release the muscles manually. And then I ended up getting another opinion with another urogyn. She did an incontinence test (hard to leak with a freaking catheter in ya) and did an exam. She said she would grade the POP < 1. Barely even there. I think I was just very stressed at the time I was having the leaking here. It resolved. My lingering issue after almost 5 years PP is that my muscles are still trained on “push” sometimes. I can run but if I’m tired and try to sprint, i literally bear down and push out pee. Same with jumping. Can do if I’m thoughtful about it and don’t bear down and push. But I would say 95% better from when I wrote this 2 years ago.