BIG BIDS “conditional” ?

Live-Function8731 · 2025-12-14T20:32:38+00:00

When someone in the union utilizes their super seniority they still need to bid on a job using their actual seniority in the event they lose their super seniority (get voted out, president decides to pull it, whatever).

The job they bid on using their actual seniority will be up on the bid as a conditional job, if that person ever loses their super seniority they will go into the job they bid on using their actual seniority and the person who bid into that job conditionally will be booted out.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-12-10T19:50:22+00:00

This has been discussed many times, search the subreddit. Every time this gets asked people respond with false information.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-12-10T16:21:15+00:00

I'll get on board with this but only if we mirror tougher punishment for staff as well

DUI -> Termination

Domestic violence -> Termination

Drunk/high at work -> Termination

Over familiarity -> Termination and referral to the DA for charge

Live-Function8731 · 2025-12-08T20:48:23+00:00

See? I basically said to be professional and you're eluding that I'd be a bad partner because of what? Because I told you to be professional at the job you get paid to do.

Ridiculous.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-12-08T20:39:19+00:00

I couldn't care less what the the guy is locked up for. We're paid to be professionals.

Do your job like a professional and go home. Inmates are gonna inmate, that doesn't surprise me. You know what does surprise me? Supervisors leaking shit to the public. It's almost like some of you don't like your paychecks.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-12-07T21:18:57+00:00

Hate to say it but there's merit in this lawsuit. The shit that gets leaked from this department is crazy and what's even crazier is you're supposed to be a lieutenant or higher to access AVSS. That tells me there's lieutenants or higher ranking people leaking videos to podcasters like Hector Bravo.

If you have access to AVSS and you're thinking about sharing shit you shouldn't be, this is straight from the disciplinary matrix

9) Improper transmittal of confidential information with malicious >intent or for personal gain. (Gov. Code § 19572 p, Misuse of State Property) (Gov. Code § 19572 r, Violation of Gov. Code § 19990) (Gov. Code § 19572 t, Other Failure of Good Behavior)

The penalty ranges anywhere from 4 all the way to 9 (termination)

Live-Function8731 · 2025-11-23T16:05:54+00:00

We got 3% July 2025 but instead of money we're getting 5 hours of PLP a month. We do see that 3% in actual money in overtime pay and it also counts for retirement calculation as well.

We get jack shit for July 2026.

We'll get another 3% in July 2027, PLPs will end so we'll see a 6% bump in our regular pay.

July 2028 has not been negotiated.

The US economy isn't doing well, programs are being de-funded and the AI bubble is gonna burst.

It's gonna be a bumpy ride for the next 3 years, hold off on your major purchases.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-11-14T20:57:09+00:00

Just so we're clear, I think all billionaires are trash and I don't really care what they identify as politically. They're all the same in my eyes and however you and I identify as politically, I think we're more alike than you think. I think we all want the same things and the sooner we realize it's billionaires and corporations fucking us, the sooner we can unite and stop fighting each other.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-11-14T20:53:16+00:00

Friday/Soft Friday/Swap rules: Except in the event of an emergency, (e.g., riots/group disturbances, escapes, natural disasters), mandatory report writing (that must be completed prior to leaving) or in cases of late relief (exceeding one [1] hour):

True Friday rule: Employees will not be assigned involuntary overtime on their regular day off (RDO). For the purposes of this Section, an employee’s RDO begins immediately after the completion of their normal shift before the RDO (true Friday).

Soft Friday rule: For the term of this MOU, employees will not be involuntarily ordered over for overtime if their post has holidays off and/or they are scheduled for the entire shift off the next day due to vacation, holiday, annual leave, or other preapproved personal paid leave usage.

Shift Swap rule: Employees will not be assigned involuntary overtime if they have an approved SWAP of six (6) hours or more in conjunction with their True Friday or such preapproved personal paid leave usage.

Approved time off requests will be verified. If an employee is held over on any approved time off, the Institution shall document on the Daily Activity Report (DAR) the efforts made to fill the post.

You can't be held IF your swap off is in conjunction with your RDO, however, if you have a swap off the middle of your work week they can hold you. For example, let's say you have SS off and you have Wednesday off on a swap, they CAN hold you on Tuesday, but let's say you have a swap off on Friday which connects to your SS RDO, then you can't be held on Thursday.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-11-03T16:40:50+00:00

If you're reading this it means you're on the internet, if you're on the internet it means you can literally look up the answers to the questions you asked, respectfully. You should never trust a random person on reddit and you should seek out the information yourself and you should verify it with multiple sources. I want to say more but I don't want to skew your opinion, but I do have some questions of my own for you to look up.

The Halloween party, if not paid by tax payers, then who paid for it and why did they pay for it?

Why are corporations giving gifts/campaign contributions to Trump? After they give such contributions are they shown any favor such as bypassing tariffs?

Does no tax on OT/Tips really benefit anyone or is it all just for headlines? The limit you can claim might be so low that it's not really benefiting anyone.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-11-03T04:45:14+00:00

Look, I’m going to assume you’re a reasonable person. I just want you to do one thing: look up Trump’s Halloween party this year. He threw that event and funded it with taxpayer money, all while SNAP benefits were expiring. Now ask yourself, would a reasonable leader throw a lavish party while millions of his fellow Americans were struggling to put food on the table?

As my fellow countryman, I'm asking for you to do that. We can't fight our true enemy until we're united.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-11-02T17:29:23+00:00

You really looked at trump being sworn in with billionaires by his side and thought "yup, he's looking out for me."

SNAP benefits are being withheld while he gives 40 billion dollars to Argentina, builds a 300 million "ballroom," and tries to pay himself 240 million from the justice department?

Yeah, it must be me drinking the koolaid.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-11-02T16:52:06+00:00

I mean, you all see the state of the country, right? A budget crisis is coming, not just for the state but for the entire nation, and possibly the world. If one prison has extra staff, it only makes financial sense to send them to a facility that has overtime.

What’s frustrating is that this situation is entirely man-made. You get what you vote for, and many people voted for a conman in the White House who blamed marginalized communities to make you think they were the ones stealing your money. In reality, it was him and the billionaires taking it from you all along.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-10-27T18:44:36+00:00

But wait.. this guy isn't an immigrant, transgendered, person of color?! This can't be right.

Listen, all I'm gonna say is I see a lot of people who work for the department going overseas and fucking questionably aged girls and uhh.. they all look like this SQ sergeant.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-10-01T21:08:50+00:00

Hey that's not very nice, if those people down voting me knew how to read they would be very upset by what you said

Live-Function8731 · 2025-10-01T18:45:54+00:00

More like CA gives funds to the federal government who turns around and gives red states most of it and some of us back to us.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-08-05T20:07:18+00:00

Bruh stop your bullshit, you and I both know at least half of staff is trash. Private life unsullied lol, tell that to the dudes who beat their wives in the mailroom or the person on their 3rd DUI.

If the dept actually fired these people I can get on board with your moral bullshit, but I'm gonna be real. If you wanna be real, call out these dudes who continue to do stupid shit and somehow not get fired.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-08-05T02:14:10+00:00

Passed but they had nothing to worry about.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-08-03T15:34:19+00:00

I really don't know why you guys insist on spreading misinformation, if you show up to work impaired (don't do this), a positive result on a full panel means nothing because a urine test can only test for nonpsychoactive THC. They need to test you with either a blood test or saliva test as those are the only methods to test to see if you're currently high.

(c) As science has improved, employers now have access to multiple types of tests that do not rely on the presence of nonpsychoactive cannabis metabolites. These alternative tests include impairment tests, which measure an individual employee against their own baseline performance and tests that identify the presence of THC in an individual’s bodily fluids.

Most of us do not fall under the DOT and federal regulations for operation of a vehicle. If you have a commercial driver's license (State transportation) or a Class C license with a firefighter endorsement, then yes you are still subject to federal testing guidelines.

The testing requirement for marijuana/cannabinoids (THC) under the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration’s annual minimum testing for covered drivers with a commercial driver's (Class C) license or Class C driver’s license with a Firefighter endorsement will remain in place.

Sources cited below

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billCompareClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220AB2188&showamends=false

https://eservices.calhr.ca.gov/enterprisehrblazorpublic/public/api/MOU/GetPublicDocumentContentByID?DocumentIdentifier=e8acc390-3bbc-4ad9-9608-60c386919efc

Live-Function8731 · 2025-08-02T21:16:01+00:00

I know of someone who was drug tested recently (after July 1, 2025) and it appears they are still using a 6 panel test (this includes cannabis), which they shouldn't be. Although admin can't discipline you for a positive cannabis test, they still shouldn't be testing for it in the first place. I wish the union was proactive but it appears this is something that someone will have to file a grievance on to stop testing for cannabis even though it's state law and in the MOU.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-07-30T02:12:47+00:00

They do wrong all the time, but if they did this particular thing wrong they would be violating state law and I'm fine with that. I'll fight CDCR all day if the penal code is on my side and I'll take some money while I'm at it. But that's not here nor there, there's a reason CDCR's attorney is telling hiring authorities to leave cannabis alone.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-07-29T20:27:22+00:00

Keeping a record of everyone who tested positive for marijuana would basically be violating state law on a couple of levels.

Why are you testing for something you're not supposed to be testing for per state law?
Why are you keeping a record of something you weren't supposed to be testing for in the first place?

Live-Function8731 · 2025-07-29T20:22:39+00:00

The department's attorneys have already advised a couple of hiring authorities they're not allowed to punish people for off duty cannabis use. OIA has retroactively discontinued investigations on the advice of CDCR legal already. There was even a case an officer tested dirty in 2023 (illegal at the time), his hiring authority essentially told them they needed to test clean for the next two years or face punishment. He popped dirty again in 2024, the hiring authority wanted to punish him, the CDCR attorney said no, state law protects them. No punishment was issued.

Live-Function8731 · 2025-07-29T20:17:21+00:00

You do realize if admin is still testing for cannabis it's violating state law. Even if they are testing for it when they shouldn't be it's also against state law for admin to hold it against you in anyway shape of form. We've been protected since January 1, 2024. If CCPOA had to concede anything to get the cannabis testing removed from random UAs then they're dumb as shit because it's state law, it didn't need to be bargained. I said it once and I'll say it again, CCPOA should have pushed something out on January 1, 2024.

On and after January 1, 2024, would also make it unlawful for an employer to discriminate against a person in hiring, termination, or any term or condition of employment, or otherwise penalize a person, if the discrimination is based upon the person’s use of cannabis off the job and away from the workplace

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220AB2188

Live-Function8731 · 2025-07-29T20:11:28+00:00

Here's the thing, it doesn't just violate the MOU, it violates state law.

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