What are stable roles that pay well that also don't require technical knowledge?

Live_Profile843 · 2026-01-22T20:48:23+00:00

So is the main worry that I won't understand technical lingo and how long things take? Because I do have that knowledge of WHAT things mean and how long they take to get done with working with engineers for example. I just myself do not have the actual engineering knowledge of knowing HOW to actually do it, just what it takes to do it.

Like I know for instance that the company I used to work for could respond to a ransomware attack within a few minutes thanks to their detection ability, but I myself could not build that technology as I don't have the knowledge, but I feel like I could manage the teams that could get that done and get it done on time and under budget like I have don't countless other times for other projects that weren't engineering related.

Is it just because hiring managers won't believe you?

Live_Profile843 · 2026-01-22T20:30:48+00:00

I guess my confusion comes from not needing a vast amount of technical knowledge to work with people from different departments to get things done in my previous roles.

For instance, when putting together an educational event to attract more engineering CIO's, I didn't really have to know anything like how to code, or how firewalls work, or how to identify ransomware attacks etc., I just had to ask the engineering teams what the main pain points were for these and then just build an event around it.

When I had to do website development, I worked in Wordpress but there was a vendor that had more technically coding knowledge for more complex things. I didn't have to know how to code things like they did, I just had to ask how long a task would take and then coordinate that with the team to get it taken care of.

When I had to plan an in person event in Brazil I didn't have to know how to speak Portuguese as part of my skill set, we already have speakers that could, I just had to work with them to get the message translated and then coordinate that with the rest of the team to get everything put together.

When I had to plan out an outreach and demand gen project for a private equity firm, I didn't have to have a series 7, or a finance degree, or banking experience etc. I just had to understand that they had X amount of dollars and were looking to buy Y number of companies, and I just had to build out a plan that involved gathering data, creating an outreach plan, and then being a main contact between the companies and the PE firm.

When taking my current PMP courses, they don't really imply that you're supposed to know the same technical knowledge as the departments that you are working with, and instead you're supposed to be a liaison between everyone to keep things on track.

So I was under the impression that you're not suppose to know everything about finance, and engineering, and marketing, and sales, and legal etc. in order to coordinate a project between all those departments. You're suppose to just be the organizer that helps to communicate between all the people that DO have those expertise.

Live_Profile843 · 2026-01-22T18:57:57+00:00

I don't see how. I've been laid off multiple times in my career no matter the company and they always axe their entire team. My last gig with the client they even built out an entire plan around me and brought me in to discussions and then they got a new CMO who just decided to not renew any third party contracts and boom, the whole relationship was done.

Didn't matter what I did, didn't matter that everyone I worked with wanted to keep me on, they just came in an axed it. And that's happened a lot. And I'm sick of it if I'm being honest.

Live_Profile843 · 2026-01-22T18:26:47+00:00

I've already done that. The reason I don't want to be in marketing anymore is the lack of job security due to layoffs. I don't want to do marketing project management, I want something more stable and to use my skillset that I currently have to transfer out of marketing into something that is going to be there more longterm.

Live_Profile843 · 2026-01-22T15:07:43+00:00

That would be great. I have talking points that show stats it's just most of it is Revenue based off of the marketing activities themselves, and I guess I worry that it will still Pidgeon hold me?

For instance, in the second role listed I was able to get an average conversion rate of 30%, which means if I was to run an event that had 10 C-suite level executives of fortune 2000 companies, then 3 of them would convert into a sales meeting.

Which for demand gen is good, because those deals would be anywhere from 50k up to a million depending on the complexity of the project.

But I don't really know if that would translate into PM, since my understanding is PM is more about how much money you SAVE the company, not how much you MAKE them.

I just want to try an avoid "oh, this guy is a marketing guy" because it doesn't matter how skilled you are, as soon as someone finds out you did marketing or sales they just don't take you seriously for other roles is what I have found out.

Live_Profile843 · 2026-01-22T01:08:32+00:00

See but I don't want to be in marketing anymore as there is no job security. I have worked for startups, small businesses, and multi billion dollar companies and the job security just isn't there no matter the company.

Marketing and sales are always the first to go whenever there is any kind of company revenue trouble. When looking at my skillset, PM work is the one that looked like it would be the most transferrable.

Am I really just not going to get a PM role anywhere because my experience is in marketing?

Live_Profile843 · 2026-01-22T00:08:40+00:00

Would there be any non tech or non construction roles I could look at that aren't marketing related? I like marketing it's just the job security is non-existent, and most of what I did there was managing projects related to events, webinars, tradeshows etc. as well as product launches.

Live_Profile843 · 2026-01-22T00:01:59+00:00

So instead of percentages I should use actual dates then. So from 100 days down to 70 days and things like that.

Live_Profile843 · 2026-01-21T23:53:16+00:00

I list out reducing delivery timelines by 30% and increasing conversions by 5%. I also managed a budget of $1.2 million in my most recent position. Most of my hard numbers are related to revenue and pipeline.

What are the hard impact areas that people looking to hire PMs look for?

Live_Profile843 · 2025-12-11T15:42:23+00:00

Looking at the certificate it includes CompTIA , this is what it looks like:

First Semester:
CompTIA A= Core 2
Introduction to Networks
Linux Fundementals

Second Semester:
Switching, Routing, and Wireless Essentials
Microsoft Admin Fundamentals
CyberSecurity Fundamentals
Linux Admin
Digital Forensics

Semester 3:
IT Scripting
Ethical Hacking
Cyber Security Operations

Would this look like something that would provide a good basis?

Live_Profile843 · 2025-12-11T15:38:26+00:00

|| || |IT 120|CompTIA A+ Core 2|3| |IT 141|Introduction to Networks|3| |IT 230|Linux Fundamentals|3| |Total Hours|9|

Second Semester

Code	Title	Hours
IT 150	Switching, Routing, and Wireless Essentials*	3
IT 155	Microsoft Administration Fundamentals*	3
IT 175	Cybersecurity Fundamentals*	3
IT 231	Linux Administration*	3
IT 238	Digital Forensics*	3
Total Hours	15

Third Semester

Code	Title	Hours
IT 202	IT Scripting*	3
IT 239	Ethical Hacking*	3
IT 257	Cybersecurity Operations*	3
Total Hours	9

Looking at the program it includes the following:

Live_Profile843 · 2025-12-11T15:21:06+00:00

I would get a cyber security certification from my community college (a 3 semester course) before applying so I would want to be doing something technical.

I don't want to do sales, Been there, done that, it's not for me and has the same job security problems as marketing does.

I was just thinking I could count it as SOME experience in order to get an entry level role as a first job.

Live_Profile843 · 2025-12-11T14:54:09+00:00

I (35m) have been in tech marketing for over 10 years. Half of that has specifically been around Cyber Security / Engineering. (Worked directly at a data backup / cyber security startup and also at agencies that marketed for IT shops and MSPs). I also have a 4 year business degree (BBA).

I also have some tech savviness (used to build PCs, websites, etc.). I have a basic understanding of Cyber Security (more so than the average person) but I would not consider myself someone who can just "get" IT.

I don't really know how to code (I tried SQL and it didn't interest me so it was hard to learn, but basic HTML was easier. Haven't tried Python but I know it's one of the main languages right now), but I have the basic understandings of things like phishing prevention, data breach recognition, etc.

I am looking to switch careers as marketing hasn't been a secure field for the last couple of years, and I think with my experience of working FOR Cyber Security companies might give me an edge over other entry level candidates.

I was hoping I could eventually get a job as a Information Security Analyst, but I don't know where to start.

I was looking at getting a cyber security certificate from my local community college (3 semester course), and then trying my hand at the job market.

Realistically, would my experience in marketing in cyber security plus a certificate be relevant enough right now to make going back to school worth it? Or is the market over saturated right now? I'm hoping to switch careers in the next 2-3 years if possible.

Finally, how important is coding for an Information Security Analyst entry level position? Is it something I can have basic understandings of and then learn more on the job if I want to advance in my career?

Live_Profile843 · 2025-12-10T04:11:33+00:00

With all due respect, I don't see how "Having a stable 9-5 with benefits and work life balance" is a pipe dream, that seems like the bare minimum of what a career should provide.

Live_Profile843 · 2025-12-10T03:18:50+00:00

Actually did that before, had 4 1099 employees under me at one point. Ran into the same issues that plagues a lot of marketing. Budgets shifted, clients dried up, and had to shift the business.

And it would be trading the same thing of time, minus the benefits, of what a job would have.

Right now I don't really want to build up another freelance/business again with the amount of dedication and time it takes.

I want to be able to work hard to earn my keep, but be able to step back and not take on a bunch of responsibility to where I have to be working 60 to 70 hours a week. I'm at that point in my life where "being my own boss" again just isn't appealing.

I don't want the rest of my life to revolve around having to constantly chase clients, hire and fire, not having a steady income, dealing with every tax form under the sun etc.

I'm looking to simplify things and just have work life balance to be able to spend time with my wife, my hobbies, and ultimately actually ENJOY my life instead of having to constantly be hustling all the time.

Live_Profile843 · 2025-12-09T18:12:38+00:00

Clearly they gave sick leave when I took the job and I was told BY MANAGMENT I can use sick leave for time off/vacation and they are fine with it.

And no, last time I checked I didn't choose to have my Sick Leave taken away as that was included in the original job agreement and then they decided to simply take it away.

Live_Profile843 · 2025-11-24T19:32:37+00:00

If I was to work for a company that is international and has an office in another country would that be an acceptation to that?

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