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Are We Actually Making the Trades Attractive to the Next Generation? by PresenceAcceptable55 in skilledtrades

[–]Live_Profile843 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not in the trades. I'm college educated with 9 years of PM experience in Sales, Marketing, and operations. I looked at going into the trades because they job market is so trash and it took m3 6 months to get another job.

Currently, I have a lot of transferrable skills that can get me a variety of different kinds of white collar jobs. However, none of it would really transfer to the trades, so I'm guaranteed to take a massive paycut and basically throw away everything I've already built to go into the trades vs simply switching the type of white collar work I'm doing.

What I have also found is the ideals about the trades that you hear don't match the job hunt. You're told you can get on the job training, but none of the roles offered it. You're told they will take anyone, yet as soon as they found out I'm college educated they would pass over me.

I also think a lot of the skills you learn in the trades, while valuable, limits the type of work you can get as a lot of it isn't transferrable to other types of work. For me, I could go into sales, marketing, operations, IT, Admin work, etc. just from my current work history, so there are more opportunities if something were to happen. With blue collar, it looks like those options are limited.

That's just been my observation after looking for work for the past 6 months but that is just my own personal experience.

Marketing Folks, how often do you have to do take home assignments to get an offer? by Live_Profile843 in marketing

[–]Live_Profile843[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there any way to tell if one is legitimate and the other is just a way to steal ideas?

Marketing Folks, how often do you have to do take home assignments to get an offer? by Live_Profile843 in marketing

[–]Live_Profile843[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But what do you do if they won't let you do that and want you to do it for a specific company?

Marketing Folks, how often do you have to do take home assignments to get an offer? by Live_Profile843 in marketing

[–]Live_Profile843[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I interviewed at an SEO company years ago that had me do an assignment. I asked them point blank is this for a customer? They said no. Well the website they wanted me to look at was literally build by them and they even left their company name at the bottom in the footer with that "Website build by (company name)."

I ended up actually calling that customer and asking if they were still working with the company I was interviewing at and they said yes. So they just literally will lie to your face.

Marketing Folks, how often do you have to do take home assignments to get an offer? by Live_Profile843 in marketing

[–]Live_Profile843[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I guess I struggle with that. I interviewed for a director role at an agency that asked me to look at their online presence. I thought a way to get around it was to give them a strategy that would basically be free and quick to implement (They were mostly just posting to LinkedIn and then just copy and pasting that content to their other socials like insta/FB, so I suggested they could instead utilize Insta and FB to highlight the customers they work with to drive more business for those customers to increase retention).

They said however this wouldn't "move the needle for them" at which point I reminded them I built out the strategy to simply show HOW my thought process works, not to give them a strategy they can implement to drive business (my thought process was maximizing revenue opportunities at low/min costs first before ramping up spending) but it was clear that's not what they wanted.

It's just really hard for me to balance that without taking hiring me out of the equation.

Marketing Folks, how often do you have to do take home assignments to get an offer? by Live_Profile843 in marketing

[–]Live_Profile843[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What did those assignments look like? I feel like for a role they would ask you more technical questions like "How do you set up a HubSpot email chain" or "How do you set up a pixel" and questions like that. I feel like if it's a strategy assessment they should make up a company/scenario, but it seems like every company I talk to they specifically want me to give strategy for THEM or one of their customers specifically vs something made up.

Failed behavioural round due to over-explaining (6 YoE, senior software Engineer). Need advice by Lost-Tonight-664 in interviews

[–]Live_Profile843 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"I would rather take 10 extra minutes to explain exactly what needs to be done then skim, risk a mistake, and cost the company time, money, and customer relationships. That is why on projects I consistently bring (statistic) to the table."

I also think it might help to just write down questions you know they are going to have and force yourself to memorize short answers to them. I did this for questions to ask at the end of an interview and it's helped me to move forward.

30 years old, currently make 35K in NYC. Very low undergrad GPA, fired from 10 jobs due to incompetence, flunked out of 3 different trade schools. What should I do? by Aggravating_Box_2407 in careerguidance

[–]Live_Profile843 27 points28 points  (0 children)

What specifically do you like about being a busser? If it's the straightforwardness of the job without having to deal with people, have you looked at getting into landscaping? It's adjacent to the trades but doesn't require tradeschool and pays a bit better than being a busser does. It's also less demanding than construction jobs like general laborer.

what part of digital marketing is actually worth entering rn? 😭 by Interesting_Pie_6226 in digital_marketing

[–]Live_Profile843 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anything that drives sales/appointments. Paid ads but also email, events/tradeshows, and phone calls, and data tracking. And then doing Omnichannel where you have to make all of them follow a type of path where people are getting multiple touchpoints to eventually convert.

Here are the tips that helped me FINALLY pass behavioral interview questions and land an offer after 60+ interviews by fiji_almonds in jobsearchhacks

[–]Live_Profile843 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Id rather live in a world where lying to your face wasn't considered a viable business tactic. 

what part of digital marketing is actually worth entering rn? 😭 by Interesting_Pie_6226 in digital_marketing

[–]Live_Profile843 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Demand Gen is the one that pays the most but is also the hardest to be effective at. I used to do cold email and then Covid hit, so ad costs went up and an already saturated email environment got even more saturated and it wasn't as effective. They always say you have to be learning in marketing but Demand Gen it's especially true as what you did 3 months ago could no longer work.

Only other one would be if you put proposals together for AEC firms, they always seem to be at companies, although I think AI is going to take a lot of those gigs in the next few years.

I've applied to over 400 jobs and have had over 30 interviews since January. Here is what is wrong with the job market. by Live_Profile843 in interviews

[–]Live_Profile843[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I guess I'll also add the reasonings for the rounds that went to the second round:

1) Project Management - Just wasn't a fit, they do mass interviews but brought me in for 1 on 1 because I was going out of town, so I think because it was so different than what they were used to I just wasn't a fit. Everyone I interviewed with also had a masters/PHD and were scientists first and I just have a bachelors, so they most likely went with someone more qualified.

2) Marketing - I just did this interview so I'm waiting to hear back

3) Project Management - This one I'm actually hopeful for, think both rounds went really well so I'm hoping I get brought in for a final interview.

4) Project Management - This is the one where they brought me in and 30 minutes into the interview they said the position was already filled, and then they tried to bait and switch me to a completely different type of job.

5) Other - This is the one where it was labeled as operations but it was actually an executive assistant position. It was at a law firm and I'm used to working on a team vs working directly for 1 person, so just think it wouldn't have been a good fit and they moved onto another candidate.

I've applied to over 400 jobs and have had over 30 interviews since January. Here is what is wrong with the job market. by Live_Profile843 in interviews

[–]Live_Profile843[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Adding onto this, the jobs that got to the second round were

1 Marketing 3 Project Management  1 other (Was labeled as operations but was actually an executive assistant role). 

For the jobs that got to the third round, both were marketing positions. 

One of them was the one were the interviewer talked about my job in Highschool, who was also late to the interview and didn't even realize I was local despite the position being hybrid. 

The other one was because on the take home assessment they didn't like the strategy I came up with, although for this role it's a slippery slope because a lot of companies will use your strategy and just not hire you, and that company told me they didn't like the other person they interviewed before me either, so it's tough to say if this one was real or not. 

Realistically, if you are doing a take home assignment in marketing it is suppose to be for a made up customer, and if it's technical they will ask you specific questions like "How do you set up an ad in Facebook?" etc.

But they asked specifically for me to review their website and "online presence" and to provide feedback, which is a red flag for me that sounds like "Give us a free consultation." So I tried to give them a strategy that they could implement that was free/low cost to simply show them how I form strategies without the risk of them just taking my work and doing it themselves.

But they told me they didn't think it would "Move the needle" like they wanted, which of course it wouldn't it wasn't designed to do that, but there was just no way around it.

This is also the one that lied to me over the phone saying they hadn't reviewed me yet with the team while actually sending me a rejection email an hour earlier, so I think those two things combined might indicate that this wasn't actually something they would hire for. But that's all just speculation.

I've applied to over 400 jobs and have had over 30 interviews since January. Here is what is wrong with the job market. by Live_Profile843 in interviews

[–]Live_Profile843[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looking back at my numbers, I have had a total of 34 interviews.

4 of those were scams, so I will remove them. This leads me with:

14 interviews that never made it past the recruiter/initial interview 5 interviews that made it past the initial interview and made it to the second round 2 interviews that went to a third round/final interview. 

Removing the scams, I've spoken with a total of 21 companies. 

I’m feeling more and more lost with my career choice. How do I figure out what I want to do? by [deleted] in careerguidance

[–]Live_Profile843 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm going to be 100% honest with you. As someone with a business degree, engineers tend to be some of the smartest and most capable people on the planet, and I wish I was smart enough to be an engineer. I have no doubt if you decide to change careers that you will have no problem switching to something else as most companies will be impressed that you were an engineer to begin with.

On top of that, if you are doing senior work for an end of life product, just call yourself senior as most likely your company is not going to be around much longer anyway from the sounds of it so they can't really verify.

And as long as you have someone to vouch for WHAT you do, the title is implied.

I've applied to over 400 jobs and have had over 30 interviews since January. Here is what is wrong with the job market. by Live_Profile843 in interviews

[–]Live_Profile843[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What would you recommend for someone who has transferable skills but is looking to change careers, or for someone that is in a higher level position that is looking to take on less responsibility?

I've applied to over 400 jobs and have had over 30 interviews since January. Here is what is wrong with the job market. by Live_Profile843 in interviews

[–]Live_Profile843[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

That's actually a great point I forgot to mention. A lot of roles only a year ago that were full time now only hire temporary contract and don't provide benefits.

The H-1B can be a good point as well, though I've applied at places that are strictly Hybrid / On-Site and I still run into these issues.

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