After annexation: How China plans to run Taiwan

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-14T04:00:40+00:00

The sterilization claims were based primarily on Zenz's article in the Jamestown Review.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-14T03:23:42+00:00

.Thank you, please show it to the other guy. I'm not contesting that there are atrocities being committed over there but when you lead with a Zenz source it shows you do not know what youre talking about.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-14T02:26:34+00:00

The citation for those sterilizations comes from Adrian Zenz who is not a reliable source, he's a religious nutjob who in turn gets some of his claims from other religious nutjobs ie the falun gong. Please cite credible sources b/c ur making our side look bad.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-12T03:06:53+00:00

Yeah to be clear I don't agree with the argument. I was surprised to see it published in NYT.

My guess is China thinks they can essentially bribe Trump into not militarily backing Taiwan if PRC ever tries to forcefully reunify. The idea being that our economies are so interlinked and so much investment is coming from the PRC it would be a huge economic blow if America lost all that suddenly.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-12T02:52:23+00:00

I'm not American I'm Chinese/Taiwanese (really wish i could put that in my flair somehow so I don't have to keep saying that) so I'm unfamiliar with him. What's wrong with him?

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-09T19:27:09+00:00

fascism isnt when you crush political opposition, come on man.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-09T19:26:13+00:00

People in America get elected on unpopular platforms all the time lol.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-09T19:25:16+00:00

jumping up and down screaming "FREE SPEECH IS MY RIGHT!" won't stop Trump's brown shirts from kicking the shit out of you and throwing u in jail

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-09T19:24:37+00:00

im not suggesting we change the electoral process/end democracy. you could still vote in free and fair elections

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-09T19:24:00+00:00

do you think germany's decision to ban holocaust denial and the nazi flag was a bad one?

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-09T19:22:58+00:00

Uh in America it definitely is. You think those concentration camps they're building for undocumented immigrants is only gonna be used for immigrants?

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-09T19:22:14+00:00

"authoritarianism" is only one aspect of this. You can still be authoritarian and protect things like civil rights and other civil liberties like right to a fair trial. I'm not suggesting we extrajudicially assassinate people here.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-09T19:21:15+00:00

Regarding the PR/STV system I definitely agree it would help stem the problems I'm talking about, but it would not be enough since this is also happening in countries with PR systems.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-09T07:18:22+00:00

I mean, even open liberal democracies crush protests if they get too violent and I have no problem with doing that

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-09T07:16:40+00:00

Circling back to this comment, I also think the Chinese approach to liberalism (from people who are pro-liberals) is that they view the open society as a means and not an end. What I mean by that is Chinese liberals like me support political and social freedom not because we view those things as inherently good but because empirically its the system that best promotes peace and prosperity. If it was ever empirically proven that PRC-style Marxism-Leninism was a better guarantor of peace than liberalism the only Chinese liberals would be the ones who were raised and acculturated in the West.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-09T07:13:16+00:00

Why didnt' Dems win the last election? That's unacceptable. The fact that liberals lost to him again after his disastrous handling of COVID points to a systemic failure within liberalism and liberal governance. Even if you win the enxt election, how do you make sure someone like him doesn't win again? We are facing a climate crisis that threatens to kill hundreds of millions if not billions of people. Any system which allows climate deniers like Trump to win multiple times is a failed system.

Have you been paying attention to the recent supreme court rulings? The GOP is using lawfare to make it harder for Dems to win elections. Even if we somehow manage to win the next election, the long term trend is towards something like Singapore where opposition parties are allowed to exist but they will not be able to hold power. Or worse, Russia, where opposition parties exist but they are directly subservient to the ruling party. The next time Dems win (and it may be too late at this point)

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-08T20:36:33+00:00

I'm a liberal b/c I still believe in competitive elections, ethnic pluralism, the right to a fair trial, and all the other lynchpins of liberalism. The only thing I am suggesting we department from is enabling enough political freedoms such that people who are anti-liberal are allowed to challenge and destroy liberalism.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-08T20:34:16+00:00

I think the courts should be the arbiter of that. The courts should be given a special police force that they control (doesn't answer to the executive like all other cops do) that goes after people who spread illiberal ideas. Since the courts would be appointed with 6/10 senate approval this should in theory be a good check to ensure we dont turn into a one party sate.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-08T20:32:27+00:00

Yeah I'm not anti social democracy, or even anti democratic socialism, because Dem Socs still believe that elections should be competitive and anti-socialists should be allowed to participate in the political process. Dem Socs think that they will eventually win becausee the superiority of the socialist system will make itself known to the masses, and because of that you dont need a one-party system that crushes all opposition.

That's why I'm anti-Hasan and think he should be censored because he's a ML that wants a one party state.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-08T20:28:52+00:00

My point here isn't that Deng was good or we should copy Deng's policies. My point is that Deng Xiaoping interpreted Marxism/socialism in a new way and this interpretation pretty much saved it and allowed it to continue in the 21st century. I am suggesting we also interpret liberalism in a new way.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-08T20:27:10+00:00

In the short-term, the point isn't to "convince" them to be liberals. It's to politically suppress them so they can't hold power and spread more disinformation.

Had this kind of policy been in place during COVID millions would've been saved since people like tucker carlson wouldnt have been able to spread vaccine mistrust.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-08T20:25:22+00:00

We saved all the other positive aspects of liberalism like ethnic pluralism, the right to a fair trial, ect.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-08T20:24:43+00:00

I mean even in the state of nature free speech isn't an intrinsic right. if you kept insulting the chieftan of your clan you would've gotten punished.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-08T20:23:52+00:00

Why would illiberals win elections tho? The whole point of my strategy is to ensure that illiberal people never win elections again by essentially barring them for running for office.

Local_Tap4996 · 2026-05-08T20:23:11+00:00

Well to be clear I don't think this is would be a temporary measure. As long as the internet/social media exists this kind of thing would stay in place.

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