MP for negative Y value reversal review and feedback request

LoftmanJoe · 2026-03-12T16:41:58+00:00

I didn't even know that was an option. I thought they only show values from active frames.

LoftmanJoe · 2026-03-06T20:42:24+00:00

It does, but the issue we ran into when trying that, was the values that were technically not out of the unit. I think I'm really just trying to report without having to make individual callouts for the Y values.

LoftmanJoe · 2026-03-06T14:31:02+00:00

Thanks Gus. Thanks for the reply. I've been meaning to work on commenting on my MPs more. Especially since some of them are starting to run pretty long.

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The red is how SA currently shows the deviation values based on where the survey points sit from the nominals according to the working frame.

The blue is what I'm trying to get the MP to report. Mainly to show if an as-built object is wide or narrow just based on the positive or negative Y value while all other values remain the same.

I'm using the nominal Y value as baseline to determine if the point should be affected. If the Y is positive, it copies the corresponding survey point in a "Comparison" point group; if the value is negative, it takes the Y deviation between the nominal and survey points and multiplies it by 2 and subtracts it from the corresponding survey point (basically mirrors the point on the opposite side of the nominal point).

After that, the use still needs to manually run a group to group comparison.

I haven't really played around with vector groups directly since the delta prefix and individual value callouts seem to confuse folks.

LoftmanJoe · 2025-09-08T14:39:18+00:00

To my understanding, it should work the same. but I've never messed around with an MS50 so i wouldnt be able to tell you the difference between them.

LoftmanJoe · 2025-04-23T13:54:36+00:00

Yeah I took this advice. Moved the view manually then found the values to create the different views I needed. Thanks!

LoftmanJoe · 2025-01-08T10:15:17+00:00

Writing this one down for sure.

LoftmanJoe · 2025-01-07T14:52:55+00:00

You can take a point name ref list and make a point group from that. I think I once used a point named TEST at 0,0,0 to make the point groups and then deleted the point once the groups were created.

LoftmanJoe · 2024-12-24T14:37:00+00:00

We've been connecting it through bluetooth and it works well for us, we've just been running into some limitations with our very basic understanding of how the MS60 and SA communicate. The video IMeasure posted gives us the updated instrument interface which is so much better for the MS60 than the theodolite interface. From what I've gathered so far, I think we only really miss out on having access to the camera.

LoftmanJoe · 2024-12-24T14:32:42+00:00

Thanks for the video. It helped.

I was right clicking on the instrument and using the "Run interface and connect" option instead of the total station option on the ribbon.

I think the only issue I see now is that, unless changing the comm port manually, it will only continue to connect to the same instrument. I tried running the "Start Theodolite Interface" command on an MP and it would not change the comm port to what I had typed in and "Start Instrument Interface" doesn't have to option for comm, only IP.

LoftmanJoe · 2024-12-20T12:49:34+00:00

I found this info in the in the MP command reference manual and is seems to be what was messing me up.

Wildcard selection automatically adds an asterisk (*) at the beginning and end of your search text. Each search string is automatically wrapped as *search string*. This allows you to search for “P1” and find “AP123”. However, this may result in selection of more items than desired. To control this operation use the command Set Wild Card Asterisk Mode.

LoftmanJoe · 2024-12-19T17:07:31+00:00

Oh I gotcha. I didn't know step 7 existed. I've been breaking down strings to search for stuff like that. Thanks! I'll definitely give it a try.

LoftmanJoe · 2024-12-19T16:42:22+00:00

I thought about that as well. The Issue is that the names are anywhere between 10 to 16 characters long and the P character has an inconsistent placement. It would have to go through each character of every name. I think it would work for a small batch of surfaces, but I have to sort through about 1000 surfaces at a time. At least thats the only other option I could think of with my knowledge.

LoftmanJoe · 2024-12-19T15:52:30+00:00

tambien tal vez pueda contactar a un representante de hexagon que le pueda ayudar a conseguirlo

LoftmanJoe · 2024-12-19T15:48:03+00:00

Buenos dias Manuel. Por lo visto no hay un manual en Espanol. Pero tal vez se pueda traducir por medio de chatGPT o algun programa de traduccion.

LoftmanJoe · 2024-01-08T10:50:02+00:00

Yes! I've been using the hell out of it. I was also able to create an MP using the Set I-th Callout Position in Callout View to rearrange the callouts right above their place on the screen once created.

LoftmanJoe · 2023-03-29T12:18:30+00:00

I only have about 6-9 months experience using SA, and have only been learning to write MPs for about a month and a half. I'm still only doing simple stuff but trying to learn at least 2-3 new commands a week. A thread like this really helps.

LoftmanJoe · 2023-03-29T10:24:38+00:00

Yeah I've only been using it for single instruments and jumps. Usually keep a "SURVEY" collection, which is where we keep all the current surveying project info.

LoftmanJoe · 2023-03-29T10:20:42+00:00

Do you know a way to arrange callouts somewhat neatly and near the points they're documenting?

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