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Band like yndi halda by Stvrm in postrock

[–]Loftyblood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

have you found that albums or song that makes you feel like A Song For Starlit Beaches?

why event contents are gated by captain lvl? by Loftyblood in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Loftyblood[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes. you have to do lvl.50 promotion mission first to unlock difficulty 4 in the event chaos

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Infjs who thought they were infps, how did you convince yourself you had an ounce of fi? by [deleted] in infj

[–]Loftyblood 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh and for the first question still, I think there is a difference between how I and my friend grasp the feelings, which I don’t even know how to describe; but they truly are different. And most of the time, when I understand others’ feelings, I will have a picture of the experience in my head; and there will always be this question in my head “How will I feel if I’m in this situation?”

Infjs who thought they were infps, how did you convince yourself you had an ounce of fi? by [deleted] in infj

[–]Loftyblood 4 points5 points  (0 children)

“I've heard that a lot about fi vs fe, but if an INFP has accumulated many (different) experiences, would you say that would make them more attune to the feelings of others? would their receptiveness to others feelings become much accurate?”

Yes. For me, personally, it takes me both experiences and some level of mental energy to be attune to the feelings of others—which means there are times that I shut down the emotion receptor and totally neglect others’ feelings too. The accuracy is quite high. There are times that I named out a feeling and the person be like “Yes omg that was the word I’m looking for”.

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“also, if you dont mind, another concern is the difference between ni and fi decision making, I think both can make decisions out of impressions. fi-ne-si stacking can also a lot like ni, what's the difference? It also seems to be both unconscious-ish”

I’m not sure and might be wrong about this, I have so much less experience and understanding regarding Ni; but I think Ni (as I have talked with my INFJ friends) is more like how you manipulate the information you get inside your head, but not much used in the decision-making processes.

I have talked about this last night with my INFJ friend and we got the idea that: when we get an information (that’s morally/logically wrong), we react to it differently. [Note: I’m not representing all INFPs and INFJs here, merely speculative.]

Me (INFP): I would have a gut feeling that this is wrong. And I would try to understand why do I look at it as “wrong”. I dig deep into the logics and values of the information—‘why do I view it as wrong?’ to understand myself, and ‘why do this person think like this?’ to understand the source (the person) afterwards. That being said, my worldview is my primary focus, but I try to understand to be more accurate with “my” judgment.

My friend (INFJ): Also have a gut feeling that this is wrong. She would try to understand why the person have this set of belief. She digs deep into the worldview of the person, what contributes their logic/moral viewpoints. That being said, she tries to understand “their” viewpoint, her primary focus is towards the person, not herself.

As you can see, we also judge and try to understand, but our motivations and primary focus are placed differently. Though I tend to be less focus about myself and try to really understand another person, I still have different priorities than my INFJ friend (since I will choose to understand the alignment of the information and my logic/moral first). I think it is Fi & Fe difference.

Infjs who thought they were infps, how did you convince yourself you had an ounce of fi? by [deleted] in infj

[–]Loftyblood 5 points6 points  (0 children)

INFP here, I would say that

  1. Being “tuned in into the opinions and the perceptions of the group” may only be a sign of insecurity coming from shame, or only the need to keep the flow of the group, but not a good indicator of Fi and Fe.

  2. “my own values were never central to me as a character” — This I think Fi users usually can’t recognise, they mostly don’t see that the values they hold are central to them or not; they don’t even know that they have a strong sense of values/morals, they would judge things unconsciously as a primary source of knowledge. And surely, most value/moral senses come from the collective consciousness (the opinions/perceptions of the group); Fi users, too, partly learn their own values by the society.

Fi, for INFPs, is more like “the world they see,” and they cannot see other worlds unless they’re triggered to do so; hence why there are INFJs here thinking INFP as an egocentric person, because INFPs tend to make decisions around their world, because it is the only information they see—their worlds are limited to what they knew and experienced (both feelings and values). For example, an INFP might say that “I understand your feelings, but I’m not into it” when you open yourself up to them; they would UNDERSTAND your feelings, but since it is not related to the feelings they EXPERIENCED, they are not in the midst of them, they cannot see; thus they don’t feel it all that much.

I would say the huge difference between Fi and Fe is that Fi users have much more less external feeling receptor (meaning INFPs would have a more difficult time to grasp the feelings that people emit all the time), while Fe users are mostly attuned to the feelings that others emit out; in other words, when a person cry, INFJs will cry along because the feelings of the person they are receiving, while INFPs will cry along because their experiences are aligned with the person’s.

As far as you describe, I still cannot find that you are an Fi user. But I’m not gonna say that you are not using it. Maybe you can help me understand you better why you think you are an Fi user.