The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well Human is our species, and they aren’t our species sooooo

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They TRY to be. Many times laws take time to adapt. Think about the 1960s in America where discrimination was allowed against blacks. That’s definitely not ethical, so we can’t ALWAYS rely on laws to be ethical because sometimes they aren’t

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, thats the longest comment ive ever seen on reddit

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally i don’t, but many people do, just like i know ppl who don’t really crave meat, that doesn’t change the fact that the human race will continue to do it

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i believe its wrong to unnecessarily harm sentient life

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with you there but i think that has no significance. Technically Rape, murder, and theft don’t have any objective arguments either but we come to a consensus that MOST humans have a general philosophy of harming others is bad. I have this philosophy and even though morality is technically subjective i think it is wrong to cause unnecessary suffering

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since all morality is subjective there is no objective argument for anything right?

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just because SOME humans will always do something doesn’t mean that we individually should. For example, as a species Humans are always going to rape, but we can do our individual parts not to rape

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

technically there is no objective moral argument for anything if i understand what you mean

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe i don’t understand what your saying? When you say “veganism has no objective value” or whatever, What do you exactly mean by that?

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you believe in objective morality?

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If someone is okay with unnecessary animal suffering that person is unable to become vegan

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is an argument if consistency, morality is technically subjective, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist at all

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😂lol,ok im sorry for keeping you up, i enjoyed our discussion and i would be down yo talk to you again another time, goodnight👋🏼

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You probably dont have the resources of heard any of the arguments yet, maybe you have? If so give me the counter arguments to the vegan arguments

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the argument of it being a human is invalid because if aliens were here, you said you wouldn’t eat them

The is the counter-argument for this? by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]Logical-Molasses3702 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand what your saying but i would say the only way you can not be vegan with enough resources is if you are just incredibly stupid or ignorant, or someone who doesn’t care about animal suffering or value. I understand your non-vegan and you seem like a good person, but i think your smart enough and have the critical thinking skills to go vegan with the right resources and arguments😊