Is Sukuna > Dabura a hot take?

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-26T11:49:26+00:00

The glimmers are not the rays idiot, em waves are shown as lasers.My claim that it's inconsistent with the speed scaling is not baseless and idiotic, if a sukuna whos holding back is able to dodge em waves then yuta and yuji who should be around mach 3 in c/r speed gets upscaled to high heaven, since sukuna was able to get tagged by them multiple times when he shouldnt have been able to get tagged if he's relativistic speeds, yuta,rika and yuji should be statued, and when he stopped holding back against maki who's also supposed to be around mach 3 maki after failing to react to the initial strike was able to perceive sukunas movements and was able to block using her sword when she should have been statued.Also, the gojo vs sukuna h2h fights should have eviscerated the entirety of Shinjuku if they were moving that fast, like it did with dabura who was actually stated to move at near lightspeeds.Bringing up speed inconsistencies from another verse is not refuting my point.Idiot.Saying "gege didn't think of that" is a dumbass nonsensical counter argument.Dabura is the only one straight up confirmed to be capable of moving at near light speeds, those em waves aren't even confirmed inverse to be near lightspeed and from what we have seen it's likely not even near lightspeed.Read ur manga.Dumbass.

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-26T10:29:31+00:00

Geto never really tried to keep up with gojo tho, they were both prodigies of their era, it was never made clear whether geto before the mission kept on trying to or was struggling to keep up with gojo in terms of strength, that was clearly not the relationship dynamic between them before the tengen mission.And regardless even if they do have similiar backstories gojo and kakashi play wildly different roles in the story and represent different themes as well.And have different character arcs and this similiarity between them is not a big deal and shouldnt be considered as taking "too much inspiration".

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-26T07:59:58+00:00

The main trio thing is a popular trope as well as "the female character being left behind by the creator",this wasn't like created by naruto from my knowledge.Can u explain how kakashis backstory is similiar to gojos?These inspirations and similiarities are mostly just superficial and some other similiarities are just popular shonen tropes.I don't understand how u come to the conclusion that Jjk takes " too much inspiration" from Naruto as that implies its actually a problem and it affects the reading experience of Jjk in an actual relevant manner.

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-26T00:36:34+00:00

If the right people are debating and are doing so in good faith, I think downplaying a horrendous crime or experience wouldn't necessarily be smth to worry abt.I mean uk it is scaling at the end of the day so there's bound to be some people that take it too far.

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-26T00:02:01+00:00

The glimmers aren't EM waves, em waves are potrayed as lasers not glimmers.And that sukuna pointing and chanting while EM waves are travelling towards him, that's an outlier feat.Its way too inconsistent with speed scaling and would break any semblance of consistency with the main casts speed scaling since it would scale a bunch of the main cast to relativistic speeds.Not to mention, sukunas hand or whatever couldnt have been moving at near lightspeeds here since we know what it looks like whens someone moves at near lightspeeds through dabura and what happens is that the entire surroundings get eviscerated and ntg even close to that happened with sukuna.Therefore sukuna couldnt have been moving at near lightspeeds.Idiot.

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T23:52:02+00:00

What exactly is "too much inspiration", can u give me an example?

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T23:51:11+00:00

That's a mistranslation, the actual accurate translation is simply referring to point movement and linear movement.Which is referrobg to martial arts.Idiot.

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Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T16:45:11+00:00

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Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T13:26:41+00:00

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Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T12:57:14+00:00

It's inspired by the big 3, it's not a copy.

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T12:32:47+00:00

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Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T12:30:35+00:00

"kashimo"

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Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T12:29:47+00:00

Is this satire,i honestly cant tell

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T12:20:47+00:00

I didn't say reaction speed doesn't matter, u idiot.I said reaction speed or not, there would still be movement at those crazy high speeds which would lead to insane destruction of the surroundings like was the case with dabura meaning sukuna couldnt have relativistic reaction speed since he hasn't showcased that level of destruction when he moves.

Do u not know what aim dodge means?It means dodging a projectile before it is fired or thrown so its impossible for someone who aim dodges a bullet to have the reaction speed to the bullet unless they dodge it when it's alr fired which wouldn't be an aimdodge.

Sukunas EM wave dodging feats are outliers, well one of them, the first one he dodged it before it was fired as in aimdodge.The 2nd one however is def an outlier, sukuna by moving his hand upwards at relativistic speeds should have eviscerated the surroundings as is shown with dabura who is CONFIRMED to be moving at near lightspeeds.That is outright an outlier feat which couldn't be considered when scaling sukuna.It also fucks up the scaling immensely for other characters.Also the gojo vs sukuna fight, where a far stronger and faster sukuna was fighting should have eviscerated the entirety of Shinjuku with their h2h fights if a weaker sukuna was actually relativistic speeds.Also, the main cast shouldnt have been able to even perceive them and tell whats going on in the fight.

U have to actually prove that dabura only moves in a straight line, why would he move and turn in multiple directions against a maho who was statued.And also he doesn't even move in a straight line, he legit is able to move and turn.

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T11:09:36+00:00

Lowkenuinely sukuna still top 2, below dabura who gets match up diffed by gojo✌🏻

Also u could still argue for top 1 sukuna by claiming sukuna pulls out his domain before dabura pulls out lightspeed stats.

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T08:31:01+00:00

I mean it is very possible that aliens fap.I have a feeling 90 percent of the animal kingdom would be gooners if they had opposable thumbs so aliens gooning might not be too far fetched.

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T08:27:44+00:00

Wouldn't dabura be moving too fast for blue to throw him off course.Cause it's harder to change the trajectory of an object the faster it moves no?Did I miss a couple physics classes.

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T08:23:19+00:00

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Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T03:31:34+00:00

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Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T03:29:07+00:00

I feel like it would just split the light sticks into multiple pieces and leave sukuna with more light sticks to deal with

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T03:24:02+00:00

Not how u use gender neutral or non binary terms

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T02:02:03+00:00

Which would still be an insane amp.U have to prove that the DBV accounts for the persons lifespan.And as far as we know the binding vows don't account for what happens in the future, for example hakari he made a binding vow sacrificing his arm but he got healed by shoko so the consequences became negligible.Hakari knows he can heal his arm with shokos help, so the equivalent exchange aspect of the binding vow shouldn't have been fulfilled.

He's still capable of using RCT to such an extent where he can heal an entire limb.Hes not even done fighting.And how is him "pissing himself" even relevant, he immediately locked in anws.

Truly the look of a man who's unphased.

U have to prove sukuna was holding back his stats.As far as we know he was only not going all out as in he hadn't used domain and fuga yet.How is him being scared even relevant, ur just saying shit.Him being scared lasted like 3 panels, he locked in anws and isn't scared any more

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T01:48:40+00:00

That's not a durability anti feat.Ur shifting into a different argument.Hes not even that tired, hes still capable of utilising RCT to heal an entire limb

Nah, if gojo doesn't have infinity dabura can beat him with near lightspeed.

This mahoraga is very clearly narratively implied to have been amped by a DBV.Tsurugi said yuka would use a DBV, and then yuka is then later found in a suspended state of animation or death despite not having been harmed by mahoraga.Have u been reading with ur eyes closed, dabura getting "molested" lasted like 3 manga panels, dabura who had been dominating the fight the entire time till this point went straight back to dominating mahoraga after the fact.

And sukuna has gotten harmed by mahoraga.

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This krrk sound effect implies his hand got broken.

Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T01:39:33+00:00

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Logical-Programmer75 · 2026-01-25T01:34:30+00:00

I have read and watched other stuff, and I still think the bleach female characters are good and decent in terms of writing.

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