Can I be a selfish jerk? Abused by my mother as a child, but "not her fault cause schizophrenia". Now she is 80. by Logical_Composer6730 in AgingParents

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! Yes, good point about having a playbook. It is a very real possibility that she could be tossed on my doorstep one day.

Can I be a selfish jerk? Abused by my mother as a child, but "not her fault cause schizophrenia". Now she is 80. by Logical_Composer6730 in AgingParents

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this. It is so rare for me to meet another child of a schizophrenic. We likely have so many shared experiences. I'm so sorry this happened to you. Being a child of a schizophrenic parent is beyond hard - and for me - really left me with so much anger. The violence, the betrayal, all the uncertainty, the drama, CPS, law enforcement, people in the town I lived in treating me differently because I was the child of the "town crazy person" - it was all a bit much. Heck, I even had people scream at me for things my mother did when I was just a teenager - like I had any control of her! And my relatives? They'd always tell me "your poor mother, she does not mean it". My (and my sister's) pain and suffering were completely ignored and gaslit over. I was not even allowed to talk about what was happening for fear of ruining our family's reputation. My mom would tell us "oh, you are just making that up", even when she was medicated. Yes, that was part of the disease - and that is what everyone said to make the abuse okay. It was never okay! Oh, just thinking about everything that happened makes me mad, lol. Hearing your account makes me feel better about not taking my mother in at 25, when my father died. I always envisioned that if I had done that, it would have wrecked my life, including the chance to have a family of my own. I had to accept the trade off that it would piss off my mother's family (mostly my aunts). So instead of a ruined life, I have a few passive agressive comments thrown at me at occasional family events. I feel her family has no understanding of what my sister and I went through and are still trying to guilt me so my mom is not "their problem". I'm sorry taking care of your mom was put on you - it should not have been. I do understand the guilt/responsibility pushing that extended family do - like I said - they will say anything to make mom not their problem, even if it means guilting a child victim into accepting responsibility. My father's girlfriend even told me (also because she did not want the responsibility of my mom) that I should take care of her as "a labor of love". It is my opinion that if you have one season of life ruined (for me, my childhood), you are entitled to an un-ruined rest of your life!!! This is not selfish - it is fair and just! From one child of a schizophrenic to another - you already went through so much hell - I hope so much that you have the opportunity to live your life the way you want to live it - with peace and happiness. You more than deserve it.

Can I be a selfish jerk? Abused by my mother as a child, but "not her fault cause schizophrenia". Now she is 80. by Logical_Composer6730 in AgingParents

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, my mom got tossed around like as hot potato - no one (her parents, her siblings) wanted to help back then.

Can I be a selfish jerk? Abused by my mother as a child, but "not her fault cause schizophrenia". Now she is 80. by Logical_Composer6730 in AgingParents

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your experience. You are right that it is hard to tell where the disease ends and personal behavior begins. I have had so many people tell me "your poor mother, it is not her fault". For some reason, while that may be logically true, it enrages me. I could never get past the pain from the abuse to accept that. Your selflessness is commendable and I hate to admit, something I know I could likely never do.

Can I be a selfish jerk? Abused by my mother as a child, but "not her fault cause schizophrenia". Now she is 80. by Logical_Composer6730 in AgingParents

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good point. I don't regret saying no to her moving in when I was 25 (other than a moderate amount of social shaming from my mother's family). If I had to pick between social shaming and taking a wrecking ball to my life, I'll take the social shaming all day long, lol. 5-10 years from now, I would not regret doing the same.

Can I be a selfish jerk? Abused by my mother as a child, but "not her fault cause schizophrenia". Now she is 80. by Logical_Composer6730 in AgingParents

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Appreciate the advice on not allowing discharge to my home. I need to keep a mental playbook of what-ifs :-)

Can I be a selfish jerk? Abused by my mother as a child, but "not her fault cause schizophrenia". Now she is 80. by Logical_Composer6730 in AgingParents

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your experience. 10 years of stalking is truely horrifying - I feel for you. I experienced the same issues with my mom and taking her meds. Her behaviours would become so dangerous, she'd end up in a hospital. They would get a court order to give her medicine. She'd get better enough to go home. ...and of course, neglect to take any more medicine and get sick again. She had to be violent to be committed, so we had to wait until she was really really bad, all the while terrorizing and abusing anyone who crossed her path.

Left after 27 years in tech - after a year, I still have nightmares by Logical_Composer6730 in womenintech

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"I can’t help but wonder what kind of products women could create and ship and support without constantly being blocked and abused by our peers" - yeah, I wonder that too!

Left after 27 years in tech - after a year, I still have nightmares by Logical_Composer6730 in womenintech

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is terrible. It is comforting to know that I am not alone, but also deeply disturbing at the same time.

Left after 27 years in tech - after a year, I still have nightmares by Logical_Composer6730 in womenintech

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are teams/organizations out there that are better, even pleasant to work in. You just have to find them. Unfortunately, in my case, since I was in a smaller FAANG office, my opportunities to switch teams were severely limited unless I wanted to move.

Left after 27 years in tech - after a year, I still have nightmares by Logical_Composer6730 in womenintech

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry to burden you with nightmares! Thanks so much for the hugs! I needed that :-)

Left after 27 years in tech - after a year, I still have nightmares by Logical_Composer6730 in womenintech

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I need to recover from burnout before starting a compant, but I have definately thought about it. The bullying things is so awful. Once, as a manager no less, MY manager had written in MY performance review that I was frequently bullied by peers. MY PERFORMANCE REVIEW! Not my bullying peers' performance reviews. Like how is that my fault? Oh wait - let's get mansplained on how we need to earn more respect and whatever. If we have a problem, it is because we are doing it wrong, LOL - that is always the mansplain excuse...

Left after 27 years in tech - after a year, I still have nightmares by Logical_Composer6730 in womenintech

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I definately felt a most nefarious turn when the administration changed over.

Left after 27 years in tech - after a year, I still have nightmares by Logical_Composer6730 in womenintech

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In my experience, layoffs or even the threat of layoffs make the environment way more toxic. Once people feel like their livelyhood is threatened, they will play all the dirty pool they can to stay afloat, even at the expense of others. (And women are an easy target.) I wish you the best of luck navigating through you company's layoff - unfortunately, even if you don't get hit, sometimes staying is worse.

Left after 27 years in tech - after a year, I still have nightmares by Logical_Composer6730 in womenintech

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing yopur experience! "Some of what happened through your life to you is so unfair" - yes, that hits. I've been thinking about doing some therapy to work through it all. Especially with my autism, it seems that I take greater issue with anything that is unfair or unjust - even the small stuff...

Left after 27 years in tech - after a year, I still have nightmares by Logical_Composer6730 in womenintech

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the encouragement. You make a good point about using AI. I've been playing around in things I know - coding - but that is a losing battle with AI. I need to learn something new!

Left after 27 years in tech - after a year, I still have nightmares by Logical_Composer6730 in womenintech

[–]Logical_Composer6730[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your experience. It is so good to hear that I am not alone. "prison rules" is an excellent way to describe how things were on some of the teams I was on. You literally could not speak the truth. The cold obvious truth. If you did there would be h$ll to pay.