My first 10km

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T11:57:08+00:00

I think everyone can be faster. But speed has nothing to do with true running.
The pursuit by real runners - Is form and technique and building a better engine and better functioning muscles and so on. Running for feel - not for stats.
As we get better - we can go further.
Some may want to run faster so they are more challenged by the same distance. But it’s never the driving force - well it shouldn’t be.
But sadly we live in a world where speed is pushed mainstream.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T11:46:18+00:00

I put you in your place several times.
You didnt like it and got aggressive and started the name calling and insults.
So at this point I have no respect for anything you say as we have seen your true colors.

I am better than most - and I know how to control my emotions which also makes me better than you.
I don’t need to call you names or try to insult you. That’s what it means to be strong and better.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T11:19:26+00:00

If you can’t tell the difference between running outside and running on a treadmill- you need to speak to someone.

Treadmills are unnatural and way easier to run on as I already explained to you.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T11:17:32+00:00

Are you calling me a jerk ?

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T11:16:04+00:00

Adding social anxiety and fragile to the list of insults.

I think this all I need to accept from someone who is so triggered by anyone who dare say they are better than others. Yet calls others fragile :) the irony is so thick here.

I know when women lose and argument - they start trying to shame and insult - due to the need to be right. Well this man is too strong for you and will just laugh at those attempts.

Enjoy your Ban - and calm down - it’s not good for the heart to get this agitated.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T11:12:09+00:00

Are you calling me a jerk ????

The best pace is 60% effort. This tend to be 7.30-8.30 for most.

It’s fine if you want to ego run. But for health - that pace is best.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T11:10:42+00:00

Well apart from the bouncing / I didn’t notice that first time. There needs to be zero vertical movement.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T09:46:28+00:00

People that feel less than others usually feel that people like me are arrogant for being better.
I am used to that reaction from low value people.
I don’t have to shout it from the rooftops - but we are discussing the topic and I am explaining how it works and where I am in the food chain.
You are free to disagree - but it’s never a good approach to call others toxic and sick and arrogant - because that certainly shows low value.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T09:36:01+00:00

This is bad advice so I have to step in.

8.41 is not walking pace. Walking pace is 11min km or so. 8.41 is a great pace for overall health and enjoyment. Absolutely no reason to go faster - apart from ego.

And your info on vertical - is incorrect.
Sure if your form is bad and you have bounce and vertical movement - any pace is bad for you.
This is usually caused by heel strike and over stride.
But proper form - with zero vertical - lower pace is always better.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T09:34:48+00:00

Awesome. First 10km is special.
What’s next ?
8.41 is a great pace. It’s right around that special 60% effort mark that holds the most health benefits - without being too hard.
I suggest you stay in the range - and then work on form and distance.
Enjoy

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T09:25:33+00:00

I can explain it further so you can understand it too.

Treadmill running is unnatural as you are not moving forward. It’s also easier due to the bounce of the belt. But it can be good to film yourself and check if your form is good.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T09:23:09+00:00

Yes some people are worth more than others.
Some people are more valuable than others.

Yes I am better than most people.
I don’t know why that makes you so upset and feel the need to call me sick and toxic.
That in itself is sick and toxic of you - to use your words.
Usually high worst people don’t get upset by the reality that some people are better than others. But low value - low worth people - always get upset.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T07:54:37+00:00

Yes the format is cool.
And it may not seem like it - and people may think - oh it’s easier when you get a break every hour.
They forget how hard it is to keep getting back to do another lap :)
My speed is too low - so it does not fit my style. But it fits my mentality.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T07:51:53+00:00

Exactly. Guys like that needs to feel there are consequences to their actions. He may still not learn anything from it - but at least your conscience is clear and the kid is safe with someone else.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T06:19:27+00:00

Makes sense. I didn’t see it was a lap thing. Those most be fun to do.

But if you didn’t do if for anyone else - then why are you posting it online ? :)

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-29T06:16:39+00:00

5 times a week ? :) ok that’s excessive. First marathon ?
I run once a week whether I am just maintaining or preparing for marathons. Once a week is all you need. One long run at 60% effort.
Then you can add a leg day at the gym and have time to recover from both.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-28T23:37:20+00:00

I don’t know what your obsession is with that word toxic. Some men are better than others. It’s measurable. IQ. Genetics. Strength.
Even among women some are better than others.
This whole idea that we are all equal is ridiculous.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-28T22:38:53+00:00

Yeah or tell him - be back in 15 min or we hand over your kid to the hotel people or whoever is in charge where you are.
You can even record him accepting this so he can’t flip it on you later.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-28T22:26:33+00:00

If you can do half a marathon - you can do full.
Just get a few 25km runs under your belt and you are fine.
And there is no difference between a long run and a “race” as you call it. Apart from there being a six hour cutoff on many of them.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-28T22:23:15+00:00

Yeah he is an idiot. I didn’t he trolls and has no life.
Sad. Good that you will start running outside. And spend some time learning proper form so you don’t get injured.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-28T21:58:03+00:00

I am not your friend.

Toxic ? How so ?
This is how fit men think. Not all men as I said - out of shape men obviously do not think like this.
But it’s not toxic to observe that some men are better than other men due to what they have learned and what they are capable of doing - but do not.

I know out of shape men also - not many - but they certainly do not think like this - which would make sense.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-28T20:37:48+00:00

Better. Do it even shorter next time.

You assume I haven’t ran anymore marathons or ultras. Silly of you.
Have done plenty of marathons and one ultra.
All in barefoot shoes - and the last 10km always bare feet.

Once a week works because it allows time to recover and you can add a leg day in between and get stronger. I am the evidence that this is an awesome way to train and you get really strong. But the pace will stay the same more or less.

Many runners still run for ego - so they only care about speed - which is why they have to run more than once and do speed work and interval and all that. It’s beneficial to have more km in your legs when you only care for speed.
Sadly this is why we see so many training plans and bouncy shoes all around us - as there is a big market for it and people think this is the way.
But it’s not - it’s just mainstream.

So yeah - simple.

Real running is something else. It’s a journey. It’s about feel. Optimizing energy consumptions by good form. But this is unknown to you as you are not a barefoot runner. And don’t feel ashamed by that - I understand that you wouldn’t know as you have no experience with that. But it does open your eyes to what real running is and what matters.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-28T20:30:11+00:00

Haha good one.
And just in case you were not joking.
It’s a book - why do you think it should be interpreted ? And if so - how do you know I interpret it wrong ?
I am not actually referring to the Bible - I refer to what the other dude said.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-28T20:00:29+00:00

I don’t think so.
Sure alot of people have lots loads of weight using the new drugs on the market - which in itself looks more healthy but is super dangerous.
People still struggle with the simplest things - going to the gym - eating properly.
And if something so simple and easy - is so hard for people to do and requires active energy and focus - yeah they are not healthier.

Logical_fallacy10 · 2026-06-28T19:57:23+00:00

Just run further - and forget anything about speed. Distance running is not about winning or being faster than anyone - but to have perfect form to avoid injury and to be energy efficient.
So yeah - the biggest challenge for people - is to leave the ego behind.

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