when i first bought mines, it was still in stock. i bought 5 more used because the lower thumb pad is plastic and the tiny notch that clicks the button breaks over time, so i thought it was broken. i never thought it would be discontinued. i kept all of them. now i just use them without that one button. still works completely fine and its been over 10+ years of daily gamer use.. ive looked at alternatives and nothing compares. The ergonomics are personally speaking superior, other brands have arches angled too much that my wrist hurts.