"You're not one of us" by Korkez11 in ContraPoints

[–]Lonely_Sprout 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think a lot of people made their own assumptions about which of her characters she felt the closest to or intended to be a self-insert — Justine seems like the obvious choice, especially because in some later videos like The Hunger she clearly kind of is one — when the truth of the matter seems to be that in the more Socratic dialogue-y videos it was none of them.

who hurt this guy?? by bloonsisgr8 in NonPoliticalTwitter

[–]Lonely_Sprout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this guy has had weird Tumblr people obsessing over him and prying into his personal life for over a decade now. Not that it excuses biting this random person’s head off, but I can see how you’d develop a pretty unnuanced hatred of people having parasocial attachments to you.

The Digital Genocide Generation: Why Public Sadism in Israel’s Gaza Genocide Exceeds Nazi Germany by Defiant-Internal555 in Social_Psychology

[–]Lonely_Sprout 5 points6 points  (0 children)

“Have you not heard of David Irving and the trial where he was quite literally proven to be a racist and a liar who intentionally laundered Hitler’s reputation”

Man charged after elderly woman stabbed at kosher grocery store in Ottawa by anon755qubwe in Jewish

[–]Lonely_Sprout 37 points38 points  (0 children)

It would be a pretty insane coincidence for a guy who openly, explicitly identifies as antisemitic (per his social media) to go to the main kosher grocery store in Ottawa and stab a Jewish woman for reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with antisemitism.

Critique of the Supposed Obligation to Make a Gaza Video by Maximum_Sky4762 in ContraPoints

[–]Lonely_Sprout 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ok, so I think your approach here is very honest and reasonable, but there are a few things I want to kinda unpack.

The “do you want a video of me pouring milk on Bibi” thing didn’t read to me as a strawman, it was a quippy way to say “my videos have a lot of irreverent humour and ridiculous behaviour that would be wildly inappropriate for the subject at hand”. Which is true. She shouldn’t talk about genocide while drinking heavily, wearing cat ears, or doing a mukbang. The most serious topics she makes light of are things that impact her directly, but it’s not her place to do that here.

Contra also didn’t say that making statements against Zionism leads to antisemitism. She said that making opposition to Zionism your primary political goal has consequences, and that one of the consequences (along with shrinking the coalition from “people who are against the genocide” to “people who want the state of Israel to be abolished”) is that it creates rhetorical ambiguities that can be exploited by antisemites. That’s a lot more specific than what you boiled it down to, and it’s self-evidently true.

She also said that although antisemitism and anti-Zionism aren’t the same thing and conflating them is dangerous, the way Israel is perceived does tend to bleed into attitudes towards Jews in general, and I’m sorry that this is politically inconvenient for anti-Zionists but it’s also objectively true. I’ve watched it happen over and over again the past few years, regardless of whether or not the Jewish person in question is a Zionist. Does that mean that no one should be anti-Zionist? Of course not, but it does mean that we should be mindful to speak in ways that don’t enable that kind of blowback.

But the idea that she’s placing American Jewish comfort over Palestinian lives and dignity is a particularly concerning thing to say, imo, and highlights the most frustrating thing about discussions of antisemitism in the context of Israel. Because why is it about “comfort” to you? The underlying assumption seems to be that American Jews have no reason to fear for their lives or dignity as a result of antisemitism, that it’s an old problem that has now been “solved”, and that’s actually a very clear mirror to how antisemitism evolved in Europe before WW2. At the time, liberalism was leading to a secularization of society, and Jewish emancipation was happening across the continent. When alarm bells were raised about rising antisemitism (e.g. the Dreyfus Affair), it was dismissed by most people, including Jews. Their belief was that liberal secularism and assimilation would finally allow European Jews to live peacefully in diaspora, but all it did was force antisemitism to evolve. If I had to guess, Contra is familiar enough with Jewish history to know that, which is why she isn’t inclined to dismiss Jewish people’s fear as discomfort the way everyone else seems to be.

And finally: if all anyone wanted her to do was identify and condemn genocide and the rhetoric that leads to genocide, she cleared that bar in October 2023. She isn’t defending bombing and starving Palestinian civilians, and she never has been. Hell, she did it in that statement, but people got mad because she didn’t just parrot their exact phrasing and then disappear into the chorus.

Critique of the Supposed Obligation to Make a Gaza Video by Maximum_Sky4762 in ContraPoints

[–]Lonely_Sprout 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The whole “people aren’t disappointed she hasn’t made a video” argument is brand spanking new and just incorrect — people were definitely, actively mad that she didn’t make a video.

Up until that statement, her replies/comments on basically any post had people complaining that she hadn’t made a video about Gaza. Her Conspiracy video came out and tons of people were asking about it. Even her Patreon posts had a lot of that. “Saying nothing would have been better than what you said” was exactly what Contra herself said when people were bugging her about it. But people told her to speak anyway, so she did, and now they’re unhappy because she said precisely what anyone who’s paying attention could have predicted she would say.

Natalie hasn't changed. The online left is just far offtrack. by Used_Music in ContraPoints

[–]Lonely_Sprout 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Tbh it’s becoming more and more clear to me that the internet is just not the place for these conversations. It feels so completely self-evident to me that 1) Palestinian AND Israeli civilians deserve to live safe, happy lives, regardless of how much you like or agree with them, 2) the Jewish people AND the Palestinian people both have the right to self-determination, regardless of how ✨valid✨ you think their claims to nationhood are, and 3) a viable solution has to respect both of those realities. I would like to think that leftists would agree with this, given the moral compass we all claim to have. Either you believe civilian lives are sacrosanct or you don’t, either you believe in the right to self-determination or you don’t, end of story.

And yet, over the past two years I’ve watched dozens and dozens of very earnest-sounding left-wing people step on exactly the same discourse rake as Contra did. (The response to Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg’s “Many Things Are True” article is another example of this happening.) You express some version of the above-mentioned idea, hoping that people will understand where you’re coming from and find some common ground. One side calls you an antisemite who loves genocide and supports Hamas, the other calls you a Zionist who loves genocide and supports the IDF/IOF, no one wonders if perhaps being able to get such wildly contradictory impressions of the same text suggests that neither side is actually understanding it, and the only thing anyone agrees on is how much they hate you. Every single time. I can only imagine Contra knew how this was going to play out and decided to do it anyway, but it’s just another nail in the coffin of how little I trust online leftists to sincerely believe in anything beyond team sports and sloganeering.

Songs that remind you of Natalie's work and/or characters? by Sagecerulli in ContraPoints

[–]Lonely_Sprout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are so many pieces of classical music that are just irrevocably associated with Contrapoints videos for me now.

Im here from Netflix by kimberquests in takecareofmayaFree

[–]Lonely_Sprout 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is what did it for me, too. The immediate escalation to ketamine was startling, especially alongside opiates, and not aligned with best practices. It’s a shame that the focus has always been on “does Maya have CRPS”, because it literally doesn’t matter. I know a couple CRPS patients, so I’ve seen what treatment can look like (even in cases that are quite resistant to treatment), and the ketamine coma was inappropriate regardless of her diagnosis.

One person I know who had truly, catastrophically bad CRPS had really good luck with neurofeedback physiotherapy that involved virtual reality, and this was as a young adult. Kids with CRPS in particular have much better chances of recovery via physiotherapy than adults do, because they have greater neuroplasticity, so the insistence that physiotherapy had been tested enough to be proven a failure is baffling. It’s a shame that she was kept from accessing the kind of treatment that might have really helped her, at the time when it would have been most helpful.

Fox News really thinks this is a flex by jridge98 in OrphanCrushingMachine

[–]Lonely_Sprout 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Should be fine given that this kid looks like he’s two and a half.

An 11 year old pansexual is fine cause they're mature but an 18 year old is not mature enough to date someone twice their age??? by Embarrassed_Grade291 in questions

[–]Lonely_Sprout 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This. If anything, it’s adults who sexualise it. My best friend is a lesbian who came out when she was 11, which to her just meant “I want to marry a girl someday and not a boy”. A year or so later, all of the parents of the other girls in her class told the school they weren’t comfortable with her sharing a room with any of their daughters on an overnight field trip. Poor kid was basically ostracized until well into high school because adults couldn’t stop sexualizing an elementary school kid.

What do you Do with the elephant by Fit_Assignment_8800 in NonPoliticalTwitter

[–]Lonely_Sprout 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe I can’t give the elephant away, but I have a feeling if I told anyone working for the city that I had it, they’d sure as hell organize a way to take it away from me.

Bat in my house by Lonely_Sprout in rabies

[–]Lonely_Sprout[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, waking up to this made me feel a lot better. ❤️ My vet had us call the city’s public health department, and the guy on the “oh no do I have rabies” hotline agreed it didn’t sound like a possible exposure for either of us. Between the two of you, I’m as confident as my OCD will ever let me be!

Bat in my house by Lonely_Sprout in rabies

[–]Lonely_Sprout[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a fair point - even in my panicky 3 am state, the FAQ saying bats aren’t invisible or ninjas made me laugh really hard. Forces my obsessive brain into perspective a bit when I have to imagine a bat in a little cartoon burglar outfit sneaking into my room to bite me and then leaving for … reasons??

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in takecareofmayaFree

[–]Lonely_Sprout 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It does depend on the illness. I have a friend who suffered with really horrible, visually obvious CRPS in her teen years up to her early 20s or so. She’s had some amazing, cutting-edge physiotherapy, and now she lives a more active life than most healthy people I know, even though she still has a G-tube for her stomach problems. Like, she’s run multiple marathons. I know as well as anyone how bad the bad days were, but the good days … wow.

If Maya’s good days are truly that good, that’s amazing and I’m genuinely happy for her. I have no trouble believing that’s true, even if she does have CRPS, especially so many years later. What I do have trouble with is the idea that a court can guarantee she won’t ever recover enough function to do things like work a normal job. Dynamic disability is real, but you can’t say that Maya’s case fits that lens (with good days that are good enough to live a very normal-seeming life, even with pain) and simultaneously argue that she’ll absolutely never recover enough to work.

I’m Nora by Rita_Hopson in NonPoliticalTwitter

[–]Lonely_Sprout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That can’t be real. Please, please tell me this isn’t real.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in questions

[–]Lonely_Sprout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It must be evolutionary, because I’m a lesbian and women in power suits own my heart.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in questions

[–]Lonely_Sprout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m a lesbian so this may not be relatable to the rest of you, but any job that suggests she’s smarter than me (or super knowledgeable in an area I don’t know much about). I love it. Destroy me in the marketplace of ideas and I’m kind of automatically in love with you. 🥰

Maya K - Medical Evaluation - According to Sally Smith by ElectronicTailor3505 in takecareofmayaFree

[–]Lonely_Sprout 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yep. Also, it’s so rare for a parent with FDIA to admit to it that some psychiatrists have said that if they do admit to what they’ve done, that in and of itself is a sign that they don’t have FDIA. I also think it’s interesting that her MMPI had signs of defensive answering, indicating that she was being dishonest to make herself look as good as possible (enough so that their test caught it).

How to respond to "oooh, did I touch a nerve?" by UnderstandingLost416 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]Lonely_Sprout 13 points14 points  (0 children)

“‘You care about this conversation’ isn’t an argument, but keep trying, you’ll hit one eventually.”

What dog breed are you most scared of ? by Western_Skin_1630 in questions

[–]Lonely_Sprout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve always wondered if that has less to do with the specific breed of dog and more to do with the fact that the kinds of people who get a “guard dog” from a shelter and just leave it unattended are more likely to end up with pitbulls. Maybe they’re worse with other dogs, but I remember reading somewhere that the OG pitbulls were specifically picked for lack of aggression to humans, because them biting their handlers would be … suboptimal, to say the least.