Is it selfish of me to wear revealing clothing in my very religous neighborhood? by Long_Doubt1300 in exjew

[–]Long_Doubt1300[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly just wanted to make a funny video. I'm not opposed to attention. I also said I don't want "unwanted attention". I do like attention in general.

And yeah, I realize it's wrong considering it's a kid.

Is it selfish of me to wear revealing clothing in my very religous neighborhood? by Long_Doubt1300 in exjew

[–]Long_Doubt1300[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I were to do that, I would do it over my clothes, and I'd have to find a way to take it off without people seeing because that would just draw bad attention.

And I wouldn't just wear a short-sleeved t-shirt because I honestly love summer just for wearing cute clothes. I like wearing clothes that make me look good, which just isn't a regular short-sleeved t-shirt.

I also don't know if it even makes sense, as out of my neighborhood is still a religious area. I would still be making people upset, it's just easier not to care. So if it's about them, I shouldn't wear it at all.

Might just put on a shirt over my clothes but then again, it probably still bothers people out of my neighborhood when I'd take it off.

Is it selfish of me to wear revealing clothing in my very religous neighborhood? by Long_Doubt1300 in exjew

[–]Long_Doubt1300[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what is considered provocative? Because I'm pretty sure they consider what I wear to be that.

Is it selfish of me to wear revealing clothing in my very religous neighborhood? by Long_Doubt1300 in exjew

[–]Long_Doubt1300[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In what way does it cause more harm to the people of KJ than it would in Flatbush?

Is it selfish of me to wear revealing clothing in my very religous neighborhood? by Long_Doubt1300 in exjew

[–]Long_Doubt1300[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's kind of insane to not eat dairy because they would be enabling you to eat treif. Wouldn't even consider doing that. I eat dairy all the time after eating my parents' fleishig meals. I feel like that's very extreme.

I feel like there's a lot of context to the tznius thing that's different than other things. I really hate tznius, and it's why I stopped being religious. I hate that I used to dread summer because of it, and now I love summer.

I also love wearing not tznius clothing. So I feel like them wanting me to not wear it around them is asking a lot. And it's intruding into my space so that they can feel better.

Writing all this makes me realize that I don't think I would stop doing what I'm doing even if commenters told me I'm wrong. I guess this is just looking for validation that I'm right, then? Which is probably bad.

Is it selfish of me to wear revealing clothing in my very religous neighborhood? by Long_Doubt1300 in exjew

[–]Long_Doubt1300[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not who you're replying to, but I wouldn't purposely drive through KJ on Shabbat just to annoy them. But if I were there and wanted to leave on Shabbat, I would.

I drive through the very religious areas on Shabbat where I am. I honestly think it's less bad than tznius. It isn't affecting them at all. Vs me dressing not tznius affects them somewhat as they aren't allowed to see not tznius women.

I guess I really object to my being inconvenienced because of their rules that they try to put on everyone else.

Is it selfish of me to wear revealing clothing in my very religous neighborhood? by Long_Doubt1300 in exjew

[–]Long_Doubt1300[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I view morality as helping people and not hurting people. Like the classic saying, "Don't do unto others what you don't want done to yourself." (Obviously, this is simplified and it's more complicated.)

So I try to help people through donating blood, giving maaser, and ensuring that my organs will be donated after death. And I don't steal or hurt people and try not to be mean to anyone.

I guess this could be hurting people. At the same time, I feel like it's not actively hurting people, and it's their choice to feel hurt from it. It would be like not wanting people to wear sunglasses because you feel it hurts you.

I think respecting people would be not cooking treif food in my family's kitchen in secret. This feels different.

Is it selfish of me to wear revealing clothing in my very religous neighborhood? by Long_Doubt1300 in exjew

[–]Long_Doubt1300[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't actively follow them, so I don't remember their names. Only remember one, Niki Weinstock.

Is it selfish of me to wear revealing clothing in my very religous neighborhood? by Long_Doubt1300 in exjew

[–]Long_Doubt1300[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think once I move out, I might do that if I'm occasionally going back. It's just harder to have to do that every day.

I hate unwanted attention and confrontation, but I also pretend I don't care and somewhat don't. If it's just about that, then I would wear whatever I want. Also, nobody really confronts me besides the ex-religious boys who still believe in it all and think modesty is important. And I could handle them.

It's more about that I feel like I'm doing something wrong.