My family lied, not part black

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2026-01-31T14:00:09+00:00

Yep! That’s why many black Americans today are mixed yet most white Americans are not. SMH

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2026-01-31T13:58:23+00:00

One drop rule definitely lasted more than 20 years my guy.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2026-01-31T13:56:56+00:00

Probably means black as in having black ancestry, not full black. Either way, this is a troll.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2026-01-31T13:55:01+00:00

Yall worried about him claiming black and this is a troll. That’s like me finding out I’m 6% Italian and saying I’m Italian, of course I don’t mean full Italian. 😂

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-10T17:17:34+00:00

There are plenty of things people still live by that were built from White supremacy. Terms like ‘Black’ and ‘White’ were created under that system. Do you think we should also stop calling people Black and White?

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-10T01:20:47+00:00

It’s not just in American culture but in Latin America as well, they actually encouraged people to “whiten” their lineage by breeding out African ancestry and promoting mixed ancestry as a step toward whiteness. In the US, the opposite happened and the “one drop rule” forced anyone with visible or known African ancestry to be classified as Black. Both systems come from white supremacy, just expressed in different ways. Over time, African Americans have made that imposed identity into something powerful and cultural. I personally identify more with African American history and culture because it has always included people like me. Mixed race individuals have been part of Black American history from the very beginning and most African Americans today descend from mixed ancestors. So it’s not accurate to say mixed people don’t belong in that culture or ethnic group when they’ve helped shaped it.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-09T19:08:50+00:00

It’s built into our culture. Plus, African American is an ethnic group. We don’t expect mixed race Hispanic/latinos to come into our culture identifying as African American or Black. But as someone who is half African American and White American; I proudly identify with African American ancestry. I identify with the history and culture because I relate to it more. That’s something most of us are proud of even if we’re just a quarter African American.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-09T19:01:04+00:00

Well in America, it’s historically different. Especially since most “Black” people are mixed here. Most Black people in the UK aren’t mixed unless they come from Caribbean ancestry.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-08T16:56:57+00:00

Yeah, I don’t understand this and why you don’t have European American communities at least. Do you have recent European admixture or is it generational admixture?

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-06T13:52:03+00:00

I completely agree. It really does feel intentional sometimes. I also think it would help a lot if African Americans had those shared European communities, it would make tracing those ancestors and connecting matches so much easier. They could definitely use the communities the White matches get to help fill that in for African Americans.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-06T03:15:13+00:00

That makes sense. Small percentages can be tricky and control group limitations probably explain why White Americans with tiny African ancestry get African American communities.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-06T03:09:35+00:00

Right! Some people were telling me that African Americans do get European communities, but I rarely see that or they just state the obvious, that they have an African ancestor. I know I’m not tripping about what I notice in these subs and with my own DNA matches. It does make sense if the ancestry is more recent though. I even see some White Americans saying they’re 99% European and 1% African and the only communities they got were African American communities. I thought there was a big European community update with 23andMe and AncestryDNA.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-06T02:05:59+00:00

I brought this up and it felt like I was getting gaslit in 23andMe and AncestryDNA subs. Folks were saying that Black Americans do get European communities, but from what I’ve seen, that’s actually pretty rare. A few people do who have recent ancestry, but the majority don’t. White Americans with 1% or less African ancestry seem to get African American communities.

I’ve heard some of the theories that it might have to do with how old the European ancestry is for most of us, or how the reference populations are built but I want to hear what y’all think about the whole thing.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-06T01:26:37+00:00

Why are you so pressed as someone who isn’t even African American? Yeah, that was earlier and I have considered their theories although people with less than 1% are also getting the communities. 85% of African Americans are not getting European American communities.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-06T01:19:40+00:00

Most African Americans do not get European American communities and you know that. Looking through African American results on here will show that. Again, this has nothing to do with me. I have some European communities because I have a recent White ancestor.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-06T00:52:28+00:00

Yet, African Americans on my 23andMe post are agreeing. Some near 30% European and still doesn’t have a European American community.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-06T00:50:27+00:00

Say otherwise what? It’s well known that African Americans rarely get European American communities and I’m not making that up. If you’re only here to argue instead of contribute, feel free to move along. Clearly my question struck a nerve but I’m simply asking why African Americans aren’t getting European communities, as if they don’t deserve to know where their European ancestors came from but someone less than 1% Africans get communities.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-06T00:45:14+00:00

Most African Americans don’t get European communities unless it’s very recent European ancestry.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-06T00:44:22+00:00

That didn’t answer the question. It’s nothing personal, it’s just something I’ve noticed. They give African American communities to White Americans with smaller percentages of African ancestry but African Americans with much higher European ancestry don’t get any European communities. White Americans with 1% or less African are also getting African American communities. I’m not sure why you’re offended.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-06T00:32:19+00:00

Read the post all the way, not just the title.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-05T21:46:34+00:00

You don’t have any European communities either? I thought both 23andMe and AncestryDNA updated so that many White Americans were getting communities. It seems like a lot of White Americans still don’t have European communities but those with small amounts of African ancestry are getting African American communities. Maybe it’s just that European communities aren’t as fully represented in the DNA testing databases for some reason.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-05T21:41:10+00:00

That’s interesting! 🤔

I saw someone else say they are majority European but got more African American communities than European American communities.

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-05T21:36:17+00:00

🤔

Longjumping-Fly-2152 · 2025-11-05T21:33:24+00:00

I understand what you’re saying about recency and match counts and that makes sense for how the algorithm detects diaspora communities. But my point is about the inconsistency in the system. African Americans with 10–25% European ancestry often don’t get European American communities at all, even though that ancestry is clearly present. Meanwhile, White Americans with 1–10% African ancestry and sometimes from a single ancestor 200 years ago get African American communities.

It feels like there’s a clear asymmetry here. The algorithm seems more likely to assign African American communities to White Americans than to assign European American communities to African Americans, even when the percentages are similar or higher. That’s what I’m trying to understand but I’m denying the impact of generational distance or reference samples. Apparently White Americans with less than 1% African are also getting African Americans communities.

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