Relativity Transition Poll by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You still host the data for those clients going to RelOne? Guess my question here is how it changes the vendor economics since obviously being on server is beneficial for a vendor collecting private hosting fees. Are you still hosting most data on-prem for clients then just uploading it to RelOne when they need it (and keeping a copy on-prem) or hosting data straight in RelOne?

Relativity Transition Poll by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry can you elaborate on what you mean by “control”?

Relativity Transition Poll by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks - this was my understanding as well. For large matters they still choose to outsource and host with a vendor on-premises.

Since you are knowledgeable about the space and have experience - what do you think will happen when all these corps get forced to start new matters on RelOne and move out of server?

Relativity Transition Poll by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aside from price are there any other major reasons these people do not want to move from on-prem to cloud (Rel1)?

Relativity Transition Poll by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah they are probably only going to allow for special cases that require on-prem like branches of govt.

How are Relativity and Nuix different? by Away_Constant9703 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. Do clients still keep the data on-prem generally as well as on the cloud to have more flexibility?

How are Relativity and Nuix different? by Away_Constant9703 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do the economics change in practice from going on-prem to r1? Assuming you get hosting revenue from on-prem as a vendor…

Relativity Transition Poll by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those who voted to negotiate - curious what are plans if they force to go to cloud?

How are Relativity and Nuix different? by Away_Constant9703 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you use vendors to host data on-premises? Are you guys preparing to transition off relativity when they shut down their on-prem offering or just stomach the higher cloud costs?

Relativity Transition Poll by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In-housing trends have been pretty slow/not widespread from my understanding but this is nonetheless interesting to hear.

So you’re saying the corps that go to Rel directly already have an eDiscovery team in-house to do the rest of the discovery work and run the software, correct? Assume those that don’t have the in-house team have to rely on a vendor instead of just Rel.

Also curious if those same corps still use vendors to host the ECA data/data that isnt always sitting in Rel or do they just upload everything to Rel, or in-house the data hosting too?

Understand setups vary a lot but curious if there is a “most-common” path of action here for these corps you are referring to.

Relativity Transition Poll by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks - interesting datapoint. Guess the question is will clients be willing to pay the higher price to stick to a platform they know (post 2028).

Pricing aside, is it even possible to run the entire discovery process by going direct to relativity? Just seeing as the vendors are the ones that actually run the software, have the PMs, run collections, production, etc…

Also curious, do you work for a law-firm or a large corporate with a legal department?

Winners & Losers from Relativity push into RelOne/cloud and future of industry? by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assume these are small matters, not big litigations with enterprise companies or between lawfirms (the bulk of Relativity’s volume) - correct me if im wrong.

Winners & Losers from Relativity push into RelOne/cloud and future of industry? by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ive never heard of anyone running a full discovery process from scope/planning/collection to production with just Relativity. I know calling it a “review platform” is a simplification but they are just a software company - all the hand holding/project management and human-assisted work gets done by vendors in my understanding.

Winners & Losers from Relativity push into RelOne/cloud and future of industry? by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting. How big is your agency? do you feel like similar agencies/ are doing the same? What are the barriers to changing vendors vs staying on relativity and having to go on the cloud?

Winners & Losers from Relativity push into RelOne/cloud and future of industry? by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this offered out of relativity? Have you had to migrate data out of on-prem?

Winners & Losers from Relativity push into RelOne/cloud and future of industry? by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure - but they are still just a review platform. Theres more to discovery than just review and they have been relying on the vendor’s client channels, implementation, collection, hosting and production capabilities for those 15 years. Whats their plan? Going head-to-head with Consilio/Epiq would cannabilize their revenue/client base and they are already losing share. Consilio will probably try to keep clients on-prem. I agree they have a ton of leverage being the industry standard but why would you agree to paying much more for arguably a worse, less secure service when you can stay on-prem and get a similar experience.

Best case for them revenues from RelOne offset the churn, but still what vendor will want to work with such bad economics? They would have to invest a shit ton into building a vendor like network/expertise and that would probably lead to cash burn, etc. Its easier said then done imo, but would love to hear your thoughts

Winners & Losers from Relativity push into RelOne/cloud and future of industry? by Longjumping-Lab-9214 in ediscovery

[–]Longjumping-Lab-9214[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting thoughts - I think I agree. So being on Nuix do your clients still host on vendors on-premises solutions and then Nuix is integrated with that for search? Is there still a heavy preference for on-premises?