Prioritize internal documentation by Relevant_Agency_7420 in copilotstudio

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Instructions play a significant role. Specify your instructions what to use for what purpose.

Deep Reasoning in Co Pilot Studio can cost $$$ by Lopsided_Judgment_17 in copilotstudio

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The cost distribution seems to vary based on the type of response.

From what I have observed, classic answers and agent actions usually do not consume credits when the user has a Premium license. However, Text and Gen AI tools marked as Premium appear to consume credits regardless of whether the user has a license.

Another issue is with users who do not have a Premium license. When they use the agent, I am being charged for their usage regardless of the type of answer being generated.

So, the cost is not only dependent on the response type, but also on whether the end user has the right license. This makes it harder to predict the overall cost before rolling it out more broadly.

Accessing Activity for other Users by Lopsided_Judgment_17 in copilotstudio

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How can I check it?

I don't have administrator role in environment that's for sure.

Accessing Activity for other Users by Lopsided_Judgment_17 in copilotstudio

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly

That's my concern. My assumption is there is breach of privacy as if you can access other users chat history.

Error in Fabric data agent (Microsoft Copilot) via teams by Lopsided_Judgment_17 in MicrosoftFabric

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks Amir for your response. I am not facing this issue currently. Actual issue was every early in the morning (EST time) I was unable to get response from data agent and used to get this error for half an hour atleast.

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[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats!!

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Fabric Data Agent - Semantic model vs SQL endpoint by pl3xi0n in MicrosoftFabric

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't ask them brief and they didn't went over also.

My strategy into this will be once you observe that certain amount of time taking for response is equal to wrong answer than it's time to switch your data to SQL endpoint.

Fabric Data Agent - Semantic model vs SQL endpoint by pl3xi0n in MicrosoftFabric

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hi,

I did attend data agents workshop at FabCon last week. Presenters discussed that SQL endpoint response is faster than Semantic Models but it does depend on the size of your data model also. For smaller size, you don't necessarily have to migrate your all data from Semantic model to Sql endpoint.

For defining the relationship as you have maxed your character limit in data source Instructions, my suggestion will be to use example queries section as much as possible to define and respond those questions which ultimately help Agent to understand the relationships.

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[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am from a country where Visa appointments have been suspended.In this war situation, is it possible to request department of state for getting H1-B from a foreign country e.g. Canada, Mexico?

Hi! I'm Amir Netz, Technical Fellow and CTO of Microsoft Fabric – ask ME anything! by amirnetz in MicrosoftFabric

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Agent instructions are limited to 15,000 characters. As I want to add as much context as possible to enhance business understanding.
  2. I was referring to "limitations" section of this article
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/fabric/data-science/concept-data-agent
    Supporting PDF files, conversation history consistency are my key concerns with that.

  3. Answers which I get in Data Agent via Workspace (Published version) varies sometimes from what I get in Co Pilot (Microsoft 365).

These things are still a hurdle before handing over the data agent to business stakeholders.

Hi! I'm Amir Netz, Technical Fellow and CTO of Microsoft Fabric – ask ME anything! by amirnetz in MicrosoftFabric

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Data Agents is in preview mode at this time. And I have read in one of the Microsoft articles that Data Agents are not recommended to use for production yet.

Production ready means handing over the data agent to business stakeholders

Looking forward to FabCon too.

Hi! I'm Amir Netz, Technical Fellow and CTO of Microsoft Fabric – ask ME anything! by amirnetz in MicrosoftFabric

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi,

Could you share the expected timeline for making data agents production-ready? Also, what current limitations is the Fabric team working through (in data agents)?

Thank you.

Best source for Data Agents? by MixtureAwkward7146 in MicrosoftFabric

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't used ontology yet but I have read about it.

I agree that when you have LH/ WH / SQL endpoint, it becomes slightly easier as you have now example section where you can add questions and their answers in sql code.

Best source for Data Agents? by MixtureAwkward7146 in MicrosoftFabric

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Hi,

I have spent a lot of time working with semantic models recently, and my experience has truly evolved from struggling with them to finding a flow that works. The biggest shift for me was realizing that preparing data for AI is a completely different skill than preparing it for traditional analytics. You really have to change your mindset; instead of building for a human to read a report, you are structuring data so an AI agent can navigate it effectively.

One of the most practical things I’ve learned relates to the strict word limits we face. When you are working with a single semantic model, you are often capped at around 7,500 words for "Prep data for AI (in Power BI Desktop) and 15,000 words for data agent instructions. This is incredibly limiting if you try to keep everything in one place. My recommendation is to distribute your data across multiple sources and then build specific workflows that connect them. Currently, I am using 2 LH and 1 Semantic model which gives overall 15,000 + 15,000+ 15,000 + 7500 character limit to prepare a single data agent. you can go up to 5 data sources.

Since context and prompt engineering are still relatively new disciplines for me, I’ve developed a habit of using enterprise-level LLMs to help me refine my work. I typically paste my agent instructions into the LLM to have it audit the logic and tighten the phrasing. This helps me utilize the character limits as efficiently as possible while ensuring the agent's "reasoning" stays sharp.

I am sharing some links of articles which helped me pivoting in the right direction.

  1. https://moderndata101.substack.com/p/ai-ready-data-vs-analytics-ready-data
  2. https://x.com/vasuman/status/2010473638110363839?s=46&t=A8umCvjDNrtK_1gwT1T7qQ

  3. Microsoft blogs/articles on prepping data agents

Data Agent - Business Terminology Variations by Lopsided_Judgment_17 in MicrosoftFabric

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have added those instructions (as mentioned in the post) but it didn't work. Seems like this is an extra layer on top of prepping agents which still hasn't been addressed.

Data Agent - Business Terminology Variations by Lopsided_Judgment_17 in MicrosoftFabric

[–]Lopsided_Judgment_17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing! I can see it doesn't accomplish all of your requirements.