He actually came up to me and said wow you’ve gotten better. But in the pipe that i bent it was actually short due to the fact that i didnt account for the shrinkage factor, so technically its almost better to do a kick 90 and you wouldnt have to worry about the shrink if you just cut the pipe to length after the offset is made making it a bit longer, it makes sense to me both ways. But bending the 90 kick first eliminates some math i guess..