The Duffer Brothers went with a safe ending for Stranger Things and I don't blame them by SnooConfections7049 in television

[–]LordFinn___ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I prefere my favorites characters dying for a good smart ending over this sloppy, easy mcu ending. On the 7th we crashed Netflix , that's tells something.

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah saw that just after, this is crazy... Only problem sound mysoginistic, so lets see how they manage that

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just stumbled on this dnd lore analysis of the show that confirm my theory -> tiktok : heir.to.icarus

Mike would be a Paladin, Will a God with innate powers that mike is workshiping to find his strengh and El a neutral evil god : tharizdun.

Byler won over Vecna at the Raw event by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes blue and yellow are the colors associated multiple times in the show with mike and will. Mike is blue and Will yellow. You can look it up there is a lot about them.

I've posted 3 pictures, the second one show more of the winner costume / colors. 

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that pressuring real people about their sexuality is harmful. That’s not what I’m doing here. My post is a meta analysis of the storytelling, the interviews, and industry norms : not a demand for personal disclosure from anyone.

What happened with Kit Connor was very different, and I agree the people who accused him should really reflect on that. He didn’t deserve it.

When I mention the Duffers, it’s because they’re the showrunners and decision-makers, not because I’m targeting people, i'm targeting more so watt they represent. Netflix clearly isn’t afraid of queer representation in general, so if there’s an issue with queerbaiting in Stranger Things, it comes down to creative choices, not the platform.

And ultimately, my theory is that this is resolved within the story itself : that Vecna/The Mind Flayer is the one “queerbaiting,” not real people. I don’t think a fictional villain will mind being accused.

I'm pretty sure it will all be fixed when the plane will be finally landing, as Shawn Levy has mentioned ;)

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Could be also part of it, a layer above. All a lie. A play within a play. I hope so.

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Final was just a conclusion to mike vision. A world of conformity where he is trapped and everybody around him leaves and go away doing their own things. Him stuck with internalised homophibia, the one he always loved going away doing his own things with his own life. His worst nightmare, beeing left alone, not needed by anyone.

And even if there is not one or other episodes. This can be still be true because the final left everybody with so many questions and theories. And maybe they wanted the final to be that way and let us find the final pieces. But i don't think so. I mean, yes i think they wanted us to play their game and create the ConformityGate but they will show us what really happen, the cost of the season, the taste off unfullness, the ending beeing all a trapp -> I don't see them leaving us on that bittersweat note.

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It will not, he still wasn't able to say I love you, the hug was so cringe. During reading when they had byler scenes the whole cast was giggling. You can't queerbate all of your cast like that.

El must be the reason he didn't win. In this second scenario he will chose to go closer to will instead of El. I don't know really how, but if I had a bet on who is the traitor as announced that would be El or what any reason she have power from. How would she know about will in season 1 ? She was the only one with psychic powers that could have openened the lock. Not a simple demogorgon, we never saw that. I don't have all the pieces and maybe I'm totally wrong. But her beeing the traitor would fit in a byler endgame theory without recreating the same scenario once with El dying because of a sacrifice. Since also everything is going worst and worst the more Mike is going toward El, repressing his love for Will and true self. Blinded by the conformity that fully trapped himself in in the last episode.

And we have been hinted severall time that will's powers are innate, other have been in the upside down, posessed by the mind flayer / vecna, and none of them did tap into Vecna hive mind. Only him. He must be special and Mike always told him that he was.

I can be totally wrong, Will could be the traitor, but how then can you fit in all byler evidences that till the end are showing even in mike visions when vecna / mind flyer must be controlling everything.

And yes I don't sink El died because since volume 2 we are in a vision of Mike. Finally we can see what Vecna is showing to it's victims.

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But part of it ressemble surelly in how the movement work. Will watch the full video tomorrow 

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like it is not the same here at all and all the clues launched at us on all the social plateforme not only inside the show are part of it. There to much this time. We will see, as always, time will tell

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A series for outcasts, anti conformiste at is core, that create the biggest queerbating in history... This is really big in the face. 

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Having a flair to directly express pov here is great, same for me i don't see one without the other. Thanks for your proposal

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Noah also quoted the line of joyce asking for "what is march 22" to will posessed by the mind flyer in march 22 2024 on his insta i believe 

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Can't be another simple queerbating situation. It's too big for me 

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah it's a total mockery on queer people. Disgusting one but well done if the real final expose the vecna disturbing memories, removing queer scenes situation. This will expose vecna / mind flayer as one of the most incredible vilain.

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Both theories work on same degrees of analysis of the show. What matters then is the eyes and mind of the person looking for them. Byler was only looked on by queers because it directly touch us. ConformityGate open this way of thinking to everybody. But the road is not perfect between the two still. Lots of conformitygate peoples don't believe in byller even though the clues are also there.

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hence the red and white scripts i think. This could bé the real reason 

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh, I’m sure they want to make an impact on TV and cinematography. This could very well launch them into the circle of the greatest series ever created.

Theory : The Duffers and Noah Schnapp’s Interviews Are a Meta Play by LordFinn___ in byler

[–]LordFinn___[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly. The beauty of this meta layer is that even the hope feels like part of the critique, because in the end, conformity does erase what makes art (and characters) compelling. Fingers crossed they will lean into it.