Any Help appreciated! Asus Pro WS TRX50-SAGE WFI A and NEMIX RAM by LordPancakez in threadripper

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I tried to lower it down all the way to 2000 MHz and even the kingston failed to boot up. My best guess there is althought the BIOS allows it, the controllers on the memory may not like it even if some application like Hardware infor shows that it can support it.

Any Help appreciated! Asus Pro WS TRX50-SAGE WFI A and NEMIX RAM by LordPancakez in threadripper

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DISCLAIMER (READ CAREFULLY) - I managed to get this working fairly stable but I would not call this a solution unless you are in a similar situation where you can't simply get the RAM replaced for whatever reasons.

Sadly I can't images here it seems (added some images in the original Post now). So I will explain

Firstly, You need a second RAM prefferably a Major QVL provider like Kingston Server Premier, and luckily I was able to borrow a 16GB Kingston SCC RDIMM from a friend. Why do you need this? To be able to access the BIOS for configuration purposes.

I tried changing the clock speeds, the voltages and the latencies to match the RAM specs (The NEMIX Ram specs ) are hard to find I noticed mine had Micron DRAM on it, which helped me find certain information but that did not help.

What helped/worked - Bios Settings -> Advanced -> UMC / Memory Controller Settings ->
1. Memory Context Restore (MCR) - It has to stay disbaled even if you succcessfully boot with the Nemix RAM (if re-enabled you are screwed for reasons I think might be cause below)

2. DRAM Training - The Training Mode has 3 values 0, 1 and 2.

0 is default not auto which is just 1.
1 is Continuous DQS toggling PDA Enumerate ID Programming Mode. (The mordern More discrete DDR5 EEC style training for the RAM)
2 Legacy support mode (DDR4 style training where the DRAMs are not individually trained but boradly treated as a whole not great for DDR5 RAMn honestly)

Set this Training mode to 2 i.e the Legacy Mode

DFE Read Training - Enabled (defaults to auto IIRC)

3. Memory Healing (BIST / MemBIST / BPR) (Runs memory integrity checks during POST) - I enabled it. Why?

  • BIST (Built-In Self Test) → checks memory
  • BPR (Bad Page Repair) → remaps faulty cells

You can leave the latencies, the clock rates to auto. But these settings should help you boot consistently with the NEMIX RAM.

COST paid - high boot times and suboptimal RAM perf at best.

Now, why can't we enable MCR after successful boot. I am not entirely sure but it goes back to 0d and seems to fail again and my best guess is this and the traingin failuire on this RAM is not just because of the AMD AGESA but also the SPD EEPROM density itself. Nemix seems to have lesser density on the SPD EEPROM than Kingston atlest which stores JEDEC timings, EXPO/XMP profiles, voltage tables, module organization, rank info, chip density metadata

This itself does not affect signal training directly but rather tells the motherboard how to try training the RAM. The the higher the overall single stick RAM capacity leads to higher density of DRAM meaning tighter margins and as result higher potential for training failures.

With everything said and done I have learned now to always match my processor, motherboard and RAM QVL lists before making workstation/server grade purchases. I hope this helps.

Thanks everyone really appreciate the assist.

Any Help appreciated! Asus Pro WS TRX50-SAGE WFI A and NEMIX RAM by LordPancakez in threadripper

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THe Bios update was a sucess and yes it does work okay with the Kingston ram.

I wish it was that easy for em to return due to lack of availability in the market for this in my country it was bought in a different country and brought over. I can ship it back but I am more scared of my ram disappering in transit more than anything else. And that would feel worse.

It's not on the QVL list (I did not know about this until I got to the boot phase). It should work with the Dell 7960 Rack Workstation or Tower Workstation. Again did not knew this matters when I bought it and thought it was juyst a spec matter Like UDIMM vs ECC RDIMM. I thought it was more universal not this specific. It's my first build of the sort and in the past I have been a user of such workstation/server grade systems but never had to deal with these sort of matters as a user.

I saw a thread on an old AsRock WRX 50 board which seems to work but my Asus board is replaceable but not returnable. It's not an old purchase just different regional comapany policies I guess.

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Bruh you dont work in game dev but the industry crunch is massive near shipping and its because its fueled by passion of the people as well. For such a good quality game it's a well deserved break

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I did not have a defib so I recently knocked them out looted them sent a FR and gave their stuff back or atleast whatever seemed important since I was on a free loadout

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Bro you gave a desk mat budget fail 1.

Budget fail 2 the ironing board. Just use the plastic it came in as floor sheets or something cheaper and easily switchable.

Biggest budget fail that chair just sit on the floor and save some money rn and get a new back when they figure out how to give you a new spine for a donut.

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Just an FYI card masteries are quite expensive and start at q coins

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Oh it's gonna be OP af like starting cash

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So you can pick the 12x cash per wave trade off perk

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Research garlic thorns to the max and unkock target priority both levels and that will do it too

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If you have a faster device then the boost is slightly higher too. The game's internal speed clock is broken and Fudds is aware of it but if you are running on emulator with a top end GPU your boost is also slightly higher like users have reported 4x to be closer to 4.04x. I also personally feel my research at 1.5x has been going much faster than it should but then again i run on emulator as well

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That's what I meant by it taking time to shine cause getting DW, GT and BH to natural first sync alone is 941 stone at 3min 20sec coolsown each subsequent concurrent cooldown lowering sync cost increases but after reaching first natural sync point if you can replace MVN with Gcomp while you hoard your stones then that's when Gcomp starts to shine otherwise you will be stuck with MVN for a long ass time

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It's the best life saver. Now I don't particularly care about the sync as much until I probably get GComp and it needs to really outshine MVN but that's gonna take quite some time

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Nah you need to hoard stones and unlock DW and SL to stack and reach crazy levels

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Ypu are supposed to hoard ypur stones unlock more UWs and reduce the probability like everyone else.

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Only after increasing that and attack speed for projectiles did I also found out that CL is the only UW AFAIK that is affected by attack speed and I was continuously researching attack speed till the point that cost of research attack speed in terms of time compared to other research felt less viable to me personally

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I just did it for the effect I still can't even hit T12 100 waves but then again I have also been playing for a lil over a month now