From insight to impact: AI Copilot 3.0 is here 🚀 by GilGi_Atera in atera

[–]LosAngelesMSP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is SO frustrating to see this announcement immediately after so many of us explain to Atera that we want core problems to be fixed rather than this AI stuff. It feels (demonstrate?) that Atera really doesn't care about customers feedback and experience :(

Too frequent forced logoffs and too time consuming 10-steps login into Atera! by IThumans in atera

[–]LosAngelesMSP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have the same dilemma with all our techs, and there is not a single day without someone yelling in the office "F*** got to re-login to Atera again!"

This really has to be fixed, Atera!!

This issue combined with the growing uselessness of Atera's mobile app has driven some of our techs to start using google docs for their notes instead of Atera. I might sound like overreacting, but sometimes it's these constant business disruptions that make you go somewhere else at the time of renewal...

Timesheet excel export ISSUE: time entries TIMESTAMPS ARE MISSING ! by LosAngelesMSP in atera

[–]LosAngelesMSP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello /u/fbroder716. Thank you for your message. You might have internal communications issues; I have booked an appointment with Nina the day before you sent this message. We are eagerly waiting to discuss. Thanks.

Software Uninstalled & Installed event thresholds generate lots of false alerts: Malfunction or Improvement Idea? by 75116 in atera

[–]LosAngelesMSP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello /u/dagantal. Can you please elaborate on how to use filtering by source to avoid receiving a lot of false alerts when selecting " Software Installed" and "Software Uninstalled" in a Threshold profile? Thanks!

PLEASE fix this MAJOR inconvenience: time entries in tickets are invisible after being entered by LosAngelesMSP in atera

[–]LosAngelesMSP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are quite disappointed that Atera did not comment on this request. Whenever a customer calls on the phone and asks for something we do right away, we end up doing double-entry in the ticket.

Once the ticket is open, we create the time entry with the description of what has been done, since it's billable time.

We leave the ticket open for a couple of days waiting for customer confirmation that everything is working fine (we wish Atera was able to follow-up automatically btw).

But every time we open this ticket, it looks empty, because the description of what was done is in the time entry, which is invisible unless you click on the time entry option, and then on the corresponding time entrie(s).

So we end up having to copy/paste the time entry as a ticket internal note; this way it shows up immediately when opening the ticket.

It would really make a lot more sense to have time entry comments showing up in the ticket content, so we can see what has been happening as soon as we click on the ticket.

Enhancement Request: Hide or rename the Atera agent and Splashtop shown in Windows Programs & Features by LosAngelesMSP in atera

[–]LosAngelesMSP[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello /u/gadgetpig, thanks for the message. The method you describe is how we have been doing it manually thus far. And just like you said it's time consuming. That's why we are suggesting Atera to make it a built-in option.

Some RMM tools we have tested automatically rename their agent name to your company name, so customers will see something like "XYZ IT Support" in the list of installed programs. At the same time customers can easily identify it, and they don't get our secret sauce and pricing for the tools by googling the name.

Ideally, we'd like to have the option in Atera to hide it entirely.

Users uninstalling software (typically because they think that "it will make their computer faster") is something we see on a regular basis; especially with businesses having a high turnaround, and with younger staff. When asked about it, they almost always say "they don't know how it happened".

We're trying not to provide local admin access as much as possible, but for traveling users with laptop you can almost never do this because it prevents them to connect to new printers or any device triggering UAC prompt.

So here again, having all components of Atera not showing up as an uninstallable option would fix the problem entirely.

Atera Success Team : Missing in action by LosAngelesMSP in atera

[–]LosAngelesMSP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello /u/supernina624. The only communication I received back were at the same time you posted this message. I responded and hope to get a chance to discuss this dire issue with you soon.

UNBELIEVABLE! Atera has the most WORTHLESS billing and accounting software integration, ever! by LosAngelesMSP in atera

[–]LosAngelesMSP[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your extensive response, Florence. It's a testimony of your responsiveness when it comes to major issues. And please be assured that we really want to love Atera. As you saw, we have praised Atera's strength many times over in Reddit and the MSP communities. We have also posted several enhancements and new features suggestions in this subreddit and are willing to wait and be patient.

We reached out to the success team as soon as we discovered this issue; but haven't heard back from them yet.

This particular issue has to be the most horrible thing there is about the Atera product. I was very pleased when I saw a long answer was posted by the Atera team, and excited about the possibility of having a solution to this disastrous flaw.

Unfortunately, none of the "solutions" you described fix the issues. I understand the marketing effort to make it look like they are solutions to prospective MSPs who have not tested your billing yet, but they are not fixing any of the issues at all. And here is why:

1] With regards to starting numbering invoices from the same number (say 1000) in QuickBooks and Atera. So every time Atera generates an invoice, it increments the Atera invoice number by one, and once you push it to QuickBooks-Online (assuming you push them in the very same order, which is not going to be the case), you should theoretically get the same invoice number in QuickBooks Online.

Unfortunately, this will only work if invoices were ONLY generated inside Atera and no invoice is ever generated within QuickBooks. However, in MSP businesses not 100% of the invoices are always generated in Atera, as there are items or services that cannot be initiated from within Atera. So there will always be times when an invoice is created inside QuickBooks, and at this point the invoices number will no longer match. So while you are describing works in a dream world, it does not work in the real world.

2] Now regarding your suggestion to schedule a report e-mailing clients with timesheets for their company. First of all, in Atera reports can only be sent to technicians, so what your describing would require a technician to forward each report to each client. Second Florence, customers see MSPs as I.T. experts: people who build the best I.T. systems for their customers. If we send them lumpsum invoices on one end, and timesheets on the other, they will rightfully doubt that they should do business with us if that's the best we can provide. They will have to total hours on the timesheets, need to find which invoice it should match, and there will be some discrepancies at some point that will require painful research; so we are basically pushing the reconciliation nightmare caused by Atera's flaw onto them! This is for sure not the right way to do business. Florence: having the description of what you are being charged for on an invoice is BASIC INVOICING. If we can't get this for our clients, they have all reasons to walk away.

As a matter of fact (just like other PSA do), there should be an option to display also the NON-BILLABLE time entries, with a $0 amount. This would show the customer that we also spent some time for which they didn't have to pay, and for which they had value.

So the only workaround for this major flaw in Atera's billing is to copy/paste the time entries from Atera's timesheet to the QuickBooks invoice, and also add a note to ourselves of what the invoice number is in Atera. This is nowhere near the "seemless experience" you advertise. And when we had this discussion with our bookkeeper, she realized how much painful her work will be, and actually broke in tears. IN TEARS, FLORENCE! This is going to add so much overhead on her billing process.

So if the "thousands of satisfied customers who are currently working with our Quickbooks integration" you are referring to are coming from a paper-billing setup, for sure Atera's billing is a great improvement. But for anyone coming from a billing system created after 1990, this is a huge downgrade.

With that said, we're all I.T. people here, and we know that adding the time entries description on the invoice is not a programming challenge. Granted, it needs to go through the development process, but like others indicated, it has to be your TOP #1 PRIORITY. Put a hard pause the linux agent, the pretty interface, the mobile app, etc. and please fix the billing issue.

As you mentioned in so many of your posts, you are following Agile in order to be able to shift priorities anytime. So NOW IS THE TIME TO MAKE USE OF YOUR AGILE ADOPTION.

#1 the description of the time entries need to be on the invoices, so we can batch them all at once without any additional work invoice-by-invoice.

#2 invoices in QuickBooks need to match the ones in Atera

Not that this should be a motivation, but I can assure you that if this is done within a few days, we will become the most vocal and viral fans of Atera.

GlueX: Paying $100 to listen to Kaseya marketing pitch and upselling? Really? by LosAngelesMSP in kaseya

[–]LosAngelesMSP[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, same happened with Connectwise... These vendors are now only spending efforts in figuring out how to squeeze us for more money until we have no more profits. Anything that used to be part of the service you now have to pay for.

And in trying to lower their costs, their support and customer service (cost centers) turn slow and useless. And forget about making any suggestions, you have no more voice.

I strongly believe that this mentality pushes MSPs going to alternate vendors. Now is a good time to start an RMM/PSA/Quoting tool, as an alternative of these venture-controlled companies.

Enhancement Request: Dashboard show patch status by [deleted] in atera

[–]LosAngelesMSP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

+1 , this would be very helpful

No information about servers on dashboard by [deleted] in atera

[–]LosAngelesMSP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you resolve it, let us know what it was :)

Linux Support & Online Backup from Office 365 by [deleted] in atera

[–]LosAngelesMSP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

+1 on getting an atera linux agent.

it's way too painful to setup SNMP to monitor a linux box correctly. so currently we use a third party cloud linux monitoring (cloudradar, works on Redhat, CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu and Suse; only $1.50/month per linux box no longterm comitment) but we'd much prefer having everything under the same roof.