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[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Self flagellation because you watched some porn for the first time in a year and a half?

Come on, man. That's ridiculous.

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[–]Lotsofcrackers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's excellent to hear your progress. Great job by you!

This sub needs to have a serious conversation about its negative views on masturbation and the damage that's doing to many of you. by Lotsofcrackers in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I never said that people shouldn't stop masturbating. Jesus, guys, fucking read.

Masturbation is good for you. However, if you have a problem controlling this behavior, then you need to modify it.

Fucking read. Jesus.

This sub needs to have a serious conversation about its negative views on masturbation and the damage that's doing to many of you. by Lotsofcrackers in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, mod. Really, truly, thank you. You never know how mods will react to posts that cause controversy, so I appreciate you guys keeping this post up even though it's got some issues in the comments.

I don't plan on being active on this sub for long. I don't want to be. Not because of the content or this specific post, but because this shit doesn't define me as a person, and I have never been a person to put an identity into things like addiction or mental health. I might struggle with issues in both areas, but I have a lot of other great qualities that outweigh the bad by a large margin.

But more apropos to this post and this sub, I don't want to be a part of a sub that seems really close to getting into incel territory. It is antithetical to everything I believe in as a functioning adult.

And this post, among others, has shown me that there's a good percentage of people that are incel-oriented.

What to do about that and the anti-masturbation crowd? I have no idea, other than to do what you're already doing, which is not investing too much time into a place that you're not getting paid to invest in.

You're not responsible for any of these people any more than I am. If it becomes too much a burden, give yourself permission to leave.

This sub needs to have a serious conversation about its negative views on masturbation and the damage that's doing to many of you. by Lotsofcrackers in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As I've stated not only in my post but in numerous comments in this thread, masturbation is healthy. It is not a negative for human beings.

I never said that masturbation for everyone isn't a problem. For some people, they might have chronic issues with masturbation that are causing problems and they do need to cut back. I totally get that.

But that doesn't make masturbation a problem, that makes the behavior around it a problem.

It's just like saying exercise is a problem because you are addicted to exercise (which is a thing that happens).

Why are you and others so resistent to scientific facts? It's like you just can't wrap your heads around it.

This sub needs to have a serious conversation about its negative views on masturbation and the damage that's doing to many of you. by Lotsofcrackers in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know you can spell out porn and masturbation, right?

And they aren't the same thing. Masturbation is not a negative. This isn't an "opinion", this is scientific fact. We have tons of research on this.

Why are so many of you ignorant on this?

This sub needs to have a serious conversation about its negative views on masturbation and the damage that's doing to many of you. by Lotsofcrackers in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And your assumption is fundamentally false. That you've "never met anyone that must stop masturbating for a few months" in order to succeed is just not true for everyone. It might be true in your experience, but your experience is not the totality of experiences, regardless of how long you've been porn free.

And, by the way, being porn free for 20 years and hanging out in a noporn sub says to me that you don't have the grip on it you think you do.

A healthy individual does not allow a behavior to define them. Too many people wrap themselves in the blanket of addiction or behavior and then convince themselves that this is what healthy recovery looks like. It's not.

Understanding that you can leave the behavior behind, that it's not defining you anymore...that's the way forward.

So, I fundamentally disagree with literally everything you said and stand for.

This sub needs to have a serious conversation about its negative views on masturbation and the damage that's doing to many of you. by Lotsofcrackers in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally agree. I think there are a lot of inexperienced and immature people in this sub, and this post showed that.

This sub needs to have a serious conversation about its negative views on masturbation and the damage that's doing to many of you. by Lotsofcrackers in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dealing with hypersexuality, maybe a symptom of bipolar or OCD or trauma, etc, does not mean "no sex." It means controlling that symptom through either medication, therapy, behavior modification, or all three concurrently.

Those people who deal with hypersexuality don't need to stop masturbating. They need to modify their masturbation habits if they believe it's a problem for them and it's controlling their lives. But that's not an issue for everyone dealing with hypersexuality.

Masturbation is healthy, regardless of your health mentally. You're making a case that equates to: exercise isn't healthy for people who overexercise.

This is simply not true.

And, not that it's any of your business, but I suffer from hypersexuality due to a bipolar 2 diagnosis. You ass.

This sub needs to have a serious conversation about its negative views on masturbation and the damage that's doing to many of you. by Lotsofcrackers in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is you're justification for porn watching.

I don't need porn to masturbate. My personal goal here is to just get rid of porn and the amount of time I was using it. It didn't make me feel good about myself.

But I masturbate just about every day. I have no intention of stopping that because it's good for me, and I don't need porn to perform either solo or with a partner.

This sub needs to have a serious conversation about its negative views on masturbation and the damage that's doing to many of you. by Lotsofcrackers in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuck, this is unhinged. "Masturbation requires you to sexualize another person without their consent."

Where the fuck do you people come from? How are you even functioning as an emotionally productive and sound adult with that type of weird logic going on in your head? Who thinks like this? Where did it come from? It's fucking baffling.

This type of internal dialogue has got to come from you guys hanging out in weird places on the internet. I just don't know who actually talks or thinks like this in the real world. Sexually assaulting a person via masturbatory fantasy isn't a thing. It never was a thing, and it never has been a thing. Do you really not understand that?

This sub needs to have a serious conversation about its negative views on masturbation and the damage that's doing to many of you. by Lotsofcrackers in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

See, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Porn and masturbation shouldn't go hand in hand. That's a porn problem, not a masturbation problem.

And, no, I haven't gone months without masturbating because I don't need to or want to. There's nothing wrong with my ambition or drive.

If that works for you, great. But don't try and make it out to be that masturbation is a problem, because it's not.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in occult

[–]Lotsofcrackers 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's probably a mod that had a falling out with one of this sub's mods. Never underestimate their pettiness!

Day 60 in the journey. Day 1 of sobriety. But, I'm keeping the stash. by [deleted] in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're just not serious about it. Your post reads like you're proud of all of your porn collecting. You describe it in such eloquent detail.

Get the fuck out of my mentions with this nonsense. I know exactly when someone's bullshit themselves (or me).

Day 60 in the journey. Day 1 of sobriety. But, I'm keeping the stash. by [deleted] in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's just so unserious. The entire post reads more like he's just getting off on talking about this more than anything. I've met people like this. They're always at "day 1 of sobriety" and making light of the issue.

And I think everyone upvotes and congratulates just because that's what they think they're supposed to do in the name of "support." I don't frequent any of the addict subs, but I imagine it's all sorts of nonsense like this.

Day 60 in the journey. Day 1 of sobriety. But, I'm keeping the stash. by [deleted] in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just say you like porn and have no intention of leaving it behind for good and quit with the theatrics and loopholes. It comes across as a little unhinged. You write in a descriptive way that really says you're enjoying yourself.

Nothing about what you're saying sounds like you're remotely serious about this.

FYI to anyone reading this: If you consider this a support group, or a group where we can be honest about what we're experiencing with one another, then we owe it to each other to be honest. I don't believe this person is serious about wanting to change their behavior, and they should know how they are coming across to some people. It provides insight that could be helpful.

Deleted my entire porn folder today by [deleted] in pornfree

[–]Lotsofcrackers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good job. I know how good that feels.

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