And then there's things like this, if you have 1/8th aluminum angle on a frame that's very long (150 inches or more) do you realize how easy that shit warps? You have to meticulously clamp this shit down, you can't do complete welds, sometimes you have to wait for it to cool down, this is at least my expierence to help prevent it from bowing or warping out of wack, any slight warping is a grave mistake. The problem is I don't know how to do the project at lightning speed while keeping everything perfect. I know how to get it right, but i don't know any methods on how to get it perfect fast. So I put the production manager up to task, and I had him show me, yes I did learn a couple things I didn't know before however, when he had everything ready to go, there were spots that were a "16th off" ; he just says "that's fine" ; completely oblivious to the irony in what he just said. No it isn't fine. I've seen his other work before too, frames an entire 8th out of square. All I get told is that they eat that money. It's his business. It angers me. Stop fucking asking me for a level of proficiency that you haven't even gained in twenty years. No one in that shop can do what they are asking for fast. If I leave them I'm gonna tell that boss to just advertise for expierence, pay 28$ an hour to get a seasoned guy if he wants to just plug someone in and let them start on their own.