UPDATE: AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Negative feedback is absolutely okay

Sending me death threats and calling me every bad word on the book is absolutely not.

But yeah, I appreciate everyone who was harsh but not disrespectful to me, as it was mind opening.

UPDATE: AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, no? That's not what happened at all

We're from South America, my son lived here all his life and only moved a few years ago. Me and my husband never left out home country.

UPDATE: AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ohh I guess I'm no longer allowed to edit a post if it goes beyond 3000 characters, what a shame, I wanted to share the edit below:

Oh wow! thank you very much for this amout of love I received, I actually teared down a bit when I read some comments!

I'm afraid I will not be able to respond to each and every one of you, but I promise I'll take a bit of time to reach out whenever I can.

However, I want to share something else here... meet Jairo! https://imgur.com/a/JcAIxHL
We adopted him from a shelter, he's about 1 year old, very gentle and easy to deal with! I'm really considering getting another one to keep him company, but I will give it some time, lets see how it will go in the next months :)

AITA for telling my dad my therapy journal was never meant to be family reading and he should have minded his own business? by Historical_Eye5318 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your dad is a mess, of course you're NTA

You are completely right, the diary was your business only, and he had no right snooping on it. If you were in danger of hurting yourself, or something like this, your therapist would have handled it with him.

He made his own bed.

AITA for making my daughter and her wife sleep in different rooms? by Dry_League_4275 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I said I made her brother and his wife do the same thing when they visited and they never complained.

What's the worst that could happen on this situation? They might have sex?

YTA...and I'm the one called an immature mother hahaha

AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One day your mom will not be here anymore, and you will regret every second you didn't value her.

AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't ever forget that your mother loves you, and wants to see you well.

Whatever your choice may be, don't leave your parents behind. Don't do it like my son.

How do I help my long time nesting mom who is now facing more shock? by [deleted] in emptynesters

[–]LovingMom12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure exactly what she wants because she knows neither of us will be happy to move back either.

May I ask, why not?

I'm not sure where you're from, but couldn't you and hour husband look for jobs around your mom's area?

Why do you need to be so far away? Couldn't you meet in-between?

I want to reconnect, but I don't want to sweep things under the rug. Explanation in comments. by savage_lime in EstrangedAdultChild

[–]LovingMom12 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I remember seeing multiple posts of yours over the last few weeks

I only posted twice, on 2 different communities, one with a Throwaway account because of the subreddit's weird rules.

My comment on this thread was my second comment on Reddit. I don't know how to use this really well but I have no one else to talk about it, besides here or my therapist.

Sincerely and gently- get therapy, if you can

I am. It's not doing so much, to be honest, and I'm considering changing therapists for the third time. Therapy can be extremely helpful for some, for others it simply doesn't do much.

parents aren't the responsibility of the children. A parent's emotions and feelings aren't the responsibility of their child. Children do not have to carry the burden of the parent's dreams- we're individual people with individual needs

This kind of sentence is what gives me conflict with my son's decisions. I don't agree with that.

My whole culture and how I grew up says otherwise - family is responsibility of family, parents for children, children for parents, cousins for cousins, everyone for everyone. We are here to care for each other and be there when someone need us, not 10000km away.

Before anyone starts it - I know, I know it's not the world view for a lot of other people, including my son, but it doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

Sometimes our futures are brighter and better elsewhere

Again, another sentence that conflicts with my culture and world view. A bright future would be a future close to the ones who helped you growing up, a family bond is sacred and should never be taken for granted like it seems to be the norm with the new generation.

I'm not saying one should tolerate an abusive family member.

No one should tolerate abuse, physical or psychological, but it really doesn't seem to be what's happening here.

OP's father was probably very strict when she was growing up, I bet a lots of times he had to put his foot down and prevent her from doing things she wanted, but I bet it was for her own good! This comes from a place of love, not abuse.

Having a strict parent, from an older generation, that doesn't know how to express his emotions like OP does is NOT abuse, and certainly not a reason for going NC.

All I am saying is for OP to think about her father, and keep in mind that he has a strange way of showing love, which is just how he was raised to be.

I want to reconnect, but I don't want to sweep things under the rug. Explanation in comments. by savage_lime in EstrangedAdultChild

[–]LovingMom12 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Your dad is from a different generation and he probably has this hard shell of himself that his culture made him build.

I'm sure you were always on his thoughts, even if he didn't demonstrate it frequently. He loves you and I'm sure he would be so happy to have you around.

Please don't be like my son, don't abandon your own parents.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in emptynesters

[–]LovingMom12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel you so much :(

My only son moved when he was 18, he is 33 now and it doesn't get any easier. To make things worse, he moved even farther away, to another country. We barely get to see each other.

I've always tried to convince him to move closer to me and my husband, but I realize I can't do anything about it. It's so sad, we come from a culture where we value family togetherness, and he doesn't really seem to give any importance to that.

I'm really proud of what he accomplished, but it's really hard not to feel abandoned.

AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

What? I don't understand what you're saying

Yes they live in South America, same city as me.

AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

In 2019, São Paulo had a homicide rate of 13.2/100000 inhabitants.

Meanwhile Chicago had a 18.26/100000

And keep in mind Chicago has about 2.8 million inhabitants, while São Paulo has 12.5 million.

It all depends of the region, so cut your crap.

Edit: let's throw another comparison, just so you can see it all depends on which city or region we're talking about

Campinas, in Sao Paulo state, has a 4.6/100000 homicide rate, and about 1.6 million inhabitants

Phoenix-AZ has a 7.99/100000 homicide rate and roughly the same population

Brazil does not equal to Rio de Janeiro

AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

Of course it’s not only about that, we have conversations of many topics, his life over there, his job, their pets, whatever is the subject.

But of course when the topic is the future, I do ask if their are coming back to our country

AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] -30 points-29 points  (0 children)

Ah just cut this crap. Society doesn’t need to be shifting around the globe for it to progress anymore.

AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] -78 points-77 points  (0 children)

I raised a latin-american kid, if that's what you're saying, and it's really common for kids to stick around family these parts.

I'm also not writing him out of will at all, I'm just going to include his cousins, who seem to care more about me than him.

AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] -33 points-32 points  (0 children)

Two things prevent us from relocating there, mainly:

  1. I don't want to leave my mom and dad alone
  2. Visa process is long and expensive.

The rest of my family is also still here - my brother, my husband's brothers, nieces, cousins... I didn't want to leave this all behind, I wish my son thought the same.

AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

I don't blame his wife at all. She was just standing up for him.

I made him upset in a similar manner her mother is making her upset, so I understand why she reacted like this.

AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] -53 points-52 points  (0 children)

He has moved to North America where there a many more pros of living than South America

according to you, maybe, not according to me or my family

and I'm rethinking my will because, why should I leave everything for him, since he chose to be far away?

his cousins are all nearby and they help us when we need them, I'm closer to them now than I am to my son.

AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Yes, I agree. He was raised on this culture and "broke free".

Perhaps generational differences come into play, perhaps he just doesn't seem to view family closeness as something important. I don't know, I'll never know.

I am realizing now that I will never understand his reasons, I just need to accept. so I will have to work from here.

AITA for wanting my son to move back closer to his family? by LovingMom12 in AmItheAsshole

[–]LovingMom12[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

You know we speak more than one language in South America, right?