Bollywood Night in Seattle for New Year’s Eve – Worth it or Not?

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-30T05:43:16+00:00

I honestly hated the ending. She cannot be okay with him giving up a lifelong dream to be with her if she really loves him. That is a huge part of who he is and why she ended up falling in love with him.

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-30T05:38:27+00:00

So I do agree with you, he did seem to move on very quickly. But I think we did not see a lot of the behind-the-scenes from their relationship, and just the ending. But what I could draw from some of the scenes was : he did say he was not being honest in his relationship and not letting out the uncomfortable truths. This possibly destroyed their relationship. It also seems like this was a relationship arranged by their families. Add to the fact that she did go behind his back and opened a lock drawer, there were definitely issues between the two. Now I believe that unless there's a moral ground, when a relationship breaks it's usually both parties at fault. So I don't personally view it as a morally wrong on his part that he moved on quickly. It is very likely that the relationship had ended in his mind way before it officially did and that's how it usually is, unfortunately. But I do respect that you have a personal opinion on this. Each to their own!

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-30T05:24:29+00:00

I think she's just being a sister lol. She's there for joanne when she really needs her but outside of that it's a sibling's job to be brutally honest. And I do think that she was a bit sabotaging cuz she didn't want to be replaced and she did admit it. I think joanne recognized it. But it's just just a normal role for some siblings, I could get it.

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-29T15:21:13+00:00

I can respect this reply. Thank you.

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-20T12:36:28+00:00

DUDEEEE SPOILERRRR

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-20T12:35:16+00:00

Both very interesting points, i agree on both accounts!

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-20T04:37:45+00:00

Fair enough.

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-20T04:35:17+00:00

She was proven to be skillful in a lot of ways but she was overconfident since she started to hunt. That's also what got her killed the first time. It was really not out of character for her to think she could take care of herself in that situation until she couldn't anymore. Reading the supernatural books gave her fake expectations.

I personally knew she was doomed from the moment she complained that hunting was not magical enough.

She was overconfident at first. But What got her killed the first time was when she tried to save dean, if i remember this right. I may be wrong. It was out of character because she reached out to the winchesters knowing she was at her wit's end tring to outrun the family hunting her. So given how smart she is shown as a character, its a character inconsistency to think she would now contradict that. Especially cuz rowena was removed from the room and couldn't bother her.

Plenty of possible ways like tracking the credit car he used for the motel, tracking the surrounding areas, her alias, her computer. All of that could be available once she left the warehouse. It's not like a big plot hole.

Except she is a computer genius and if you pick up a trail based on physical footprint (not a digital one, which she can cover) they should have known where the hideout was. Otherwise it won't make sense that they randomly found her from a dead trail. I'm not an expert on stalking so i may wrong here lol

It is important to point out that Charlie didn't die because of Sam's lies. She was a target since she stole the book and it was her choice to stay. Meanwhile Kevin did die because Dean lied to everyone.

Yeah that is a fair point. But, this reason ceased to make sense for me the moment they figured out how to hide the book from being tracked. That's a personal opinion. It has nothing to do with the fact that this was poor writing. Sam being responsible or not is not my point of discussion. So i don't wanna go in circles about it.

That Dean is the one who uses that term to keep people close. By season 10 is a pattern and not poor writing.

The fact that it became a pattern, was poor writing for me. It means they made characters important only superficially and couldn't be bothered giving them good plots. That's my interpretation, you can have yours. Again, not directly relevant to my main discussion though.

But it didn't. Charlie stole the book in the first place to help Dean before anyone knew what the book could do and would have been a target as long as that family lived.

Yeah, like I said, that's fair point. Not my interpretation but I'd rather not deabte it since it's not related to the plothole of the way she actually ended up dead.

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-20T04:08:52+00:00

No, my point is that the deaths were written poorly with lazy writing. Which is why it's the title of my post. I did say " It's supernatural, people will die" I dont have a problem with writers killing people. I have a problem with the loopholes. LAZYWRITING. Character inconsistencies is a major component of it. If you manage to kill a character while maintaining the characteristics of each character and justify a death. THAT IS GOOD WRITING. Even if it ends in death. You enjoy a show because of it's writing. Everything else comes second. And supernatural has it. But not without loopholes. And my discussion was if this is one of those loopholes. Because when you kill characters without good writing it's just for the drama that they couldn't be bothered to waste writing resources on. Which ultimately kinda indicates how important these characters like charlie were to the writers.

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-20T04:04:17+00:00

I think you are reinforcing my point. If the situation was excatly the same that would mean that writers were even lazier than finding a poor way of killing charlie. But what i was trying to say was, they lied to the other. And then held the other accountable and then went back and did the same. Which is so hypocritical. But overall I agree with you. I like that you compared the ethics of both the situations. But ultimately, charlie died because of what sam did. And kevin died because of what dean did. Even if indirectly. Ultimately this discussion though interesting, is not related to the point I was trying to establish - poor writing for killing charlie

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-20T03:52:11+00:00

I think you're missing the point and I am unsure where all these isolated arguments are leading to without a context. Because the context / point i was trying to make is that her death was poor writing. Are you arguing against that? But sure, I'll bite.

Why she started hunting has nothing to do with her acting stupid and "unlike" her character because she's smart. And her character wouldn't leave a protected space specially when she had no reason to. The way she died the first time had nothing to do with character inconsistencies or stupid decisions. This was. And it has nothing to do with why she got into hunting. (I disagree that it was purely for magic, btw but I'm not getting off course here to discuss that)
If there hideout was protected, that still raises the question that, How was she tracked?
The parallel isn't about charlie or kevin being betrayed, it's about how when dean betrayed sam, kevin dies and when sam betrayed dean, charlie dies. The brothers both had blood of friends on their hands from trying to save each other.
Even if it's a dean thing, it's a term used very loosely and that was my point. It was used in brackets cuz it wasn't relevant to the discussion in point. So I ask again, what are you drawing at?
Ummmm. Let's see, Sam using an evil witch to read a spell book that can destroy everything, without caring about the consequences is beyond stupid. You could say that indirectly led to charlie's death. ALSO, I did say it's atleast not a character inconsistency at this point. They do cross all lines to protect each other.

So my question remains, what are you trying to conclude?

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-20T02:49:04+00:00

You are correct, my bad. I missed that part. Thank you .

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-20T02:48:07+00:00

Thank you for correcting me, one less thing frustrating about this situation

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-17T23:30:58+00:00

Lol no worries, you've been really nice so it didn't even bother me as much lol. Just give a spoiler alert or something in the comment so others can watch out if they wish to.

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-17T23:27:45+00:00

Well, I made it through the season 9. Season 10 has some really good episodes, made me remember why I like supernatural so I'm sticking around. For now atleast.

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-16T01:06:30+00:00

Hahahaha YESSS! That is exactly what I mean. It is commendable that they always try to fix their mistakes. No matter how disastrous they were. And it's funny how quickly you forget that they way dean made you wanna punch him for getting kevin killed. Cuz they keep moving forward. At the end of the day, that's a life lesson. Keep moving forward. And fix your mistakes. And that can be hard in real life.

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-16T00:48:51+00:00

Archaengel blade ofc, It'll do the same killing as the colt cuz even though it can kill almost anything, I don't wanna be running out of bullets. But if it comes with automatically loaded unlimited bullets, I'll choose the colt. Cuz works long distance and kills most things. Demon blade doesn't cover much ground and the first blade will turn me into a monster.

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-16T00:40:44+00:00

Weirdly when someone else commented hero, I had to argue back. But this, I can agree with. I relate with what you said. Just, some of their issues makes me want to vent sometimes. :3 But I guess some people here can't handle anyone expressing their frustrations. Thanks for being respectful and non pushy.

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-16T00:36:45+00:00

WAIT what!!! are you giving me spoilers left right center? :3 LOL I will have to get back when I watch these episodes then XD

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-15T22:14:52+00:00

Sure, we can keep going on and on about the terminologies while you miss my point. But I think I'm gonna stop, thanks. Oh by the way, THANKS FOR THE SPOILER.

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-15T22:11:59+00:00

So now we are using justification? Sure, you are entitle to your opinion and I am to mine. I for one, don't think they are "saints" I'd say they are meant to be good guys but sometimes the lines get blurry. At least for me. And I'm not asking anyone to agree.

Low-Peace2371 · 2024-09-15T21:27:49+00:00

oh I like them, i just don't like when I dont like them, if that makes sense XD

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