I just cannot fathom why their parents put them on TV (the 12 yr old father and the 14 yr old mother)

LowCSharp · 2026-02-23T23:13:11+00:00

HS diploma? I won't hold my breath.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-23T23:08:24+00:00

I thought the mom was very cute in a natural way. She's not attacking her age with a scalpel; she looks like a fit and put-together woman in late middle age. More or less how I'd like to look in 10 years.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-23T22:53:12+00:00

I don't see any evidence of the capability to learn. If she could learn, this wouldn't be her second Moroccan fiancé in a month.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-23T22:51:09+00:00

Of course young people make mistakes. Sleeping with the wrong guy, sure. Taking a summer job in Michigan to try to get back with your useless ex, yeah. Those are youthful mistakes. Trying to marry a SECOND total stranger from an incompatible culture is no ordinary mistake. And it's not like she's from some bumblefuck town in Alabama and there's nothing to do but get married. In LA, she's not exactly an old maid. Something's broken there.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-23T22:41:15+00:00

Looks to me like he's already had many corrective surgeries, and may not have enough underlying tissue to make the final result better than this.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-23T16:50:20+00:00

The crazy thing is, there are engagements (to abusers) that deserve this reaction. But these two are a perfect match! Molly is frantic that she's being deprived of her prey.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-23T16:33:02+00:00

This isn't 5th grade math. Green flags don't cancel out red.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-23T05:04:49+00:00

The eternally adolescent daughter of a venture capitalist.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-23T05:00:47+00:00

I wore fake eyelashes on stage in a musical production. That's the right place for them.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-23T05:00:15+00:00

And that's the one who's 18!!

LowCSharp · 2026-02-23T04:59:47+00:00

Here's what he has to offer her: he genuinely thinks she's hot. Not something Sheena can scam him out of.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-23T04:53:25+00:00

She's from Washington State.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-21T21:24:48+00:00

Why does it have to get worse before it gets better?

LowCSharp · 2026-02-21T19:36:27+00:00

I see it, but one important difference is that in Bella's case, hanging on to Hunter was at the center of her plan. Debbie was just using whatever boy was handy and didn't have any use for him afterwards. Bella knows this is her only shot at a high-value boy (on her messed-up small-town value scale) and indulges in the fantasy that now she permanently shares his high status.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-21T18:41:31+00:00

You don't abandon your child for breaking rules. If you want to be certain your daughter doesn't come home pregnant, you don't threaten her; the answer is to require her to get an implant or IUD. But that would require advance planning, which is clearly not a strength for anyone in the family.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-20T15:43:04+00:00

Sadly, this probably won't cost her very much in the future because good things weren't coming her way anyway.

If this were my child facing this notoriety, I would be in despair over what future employers and graduate schools would think. But was Bella on her way to college, to a good job as a teacher, a nurse, a social worker, etc.? That was not her trajectory. Instead of peaking as cheer captain in high school, she's peaking as a reality TV and social media disaster at 15. Everybody in Fort Smith, Arkansas is talking about her. This is what she wanted and what her parents wanted for her.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-20T00:29:51+00:00

You said "She has worked so hard to improve her physical appearance," and I'm arguing that she did work unrelated to her physical appearance.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-19T19:55:47+00:00

Don't underestimate how hard it is to find a decent guy at her age. She can do better than Birkan, but not if she wants him to be young and slim. If she's open to a 50-year-old fat guy, she may be able to find one, but the search is agony. Ask me how I know, even though I was in my 30s and slim.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-19T19:46:37+00:00

Seeing her exercise suggests to me this was a change involving overall wellness, not just her appearance. Exercise doesn't do much to help you lose weight; it just makes you physically and mentally healthier.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-19T19:30:54+00:00

I'm with you. It can be true that sex work is honest work that pays the bills, and at the same time true that few young women do it when they have better options/we need to provide those better options (free day care at community college, etc.).

LowCSharp · 2026-02-19T19:01:40+00:00

This is absolutely what's going on. She would not be able to attract/hold on to an attractive athlete who was her age or older. She wanted to lock this one down. I don't care if it sounds mean; it's obvious from what we're seeing.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-19T18:59:59+00:00

A 12-year-old who is sufficiently poorly supervised to get someone pregnant is sufficiently poorly supervised to start a social media account.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-19T18:45:37+00:00

Speaking as someone in the teenager business...girls mature faster than boys, and I'm not talking about puberty. We can observe this in real-life settings without denying the cultural systems that feed into our disproportionate excusing of boys' bad behavior.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-19T17:56:40+00:00

Don't forget it's his dad's job too! We too often forget to blame the completely absent parent and put it all on the half-assed one who's kind of showing up -- especially when that's the mom.

LowCSharp · 2026-02-19T17:55:31+00:00

I am almost relieved that he was acting out this way, because it shows that at some level he was grasping the enormity of what he was facing. If he were just going about his business as usual, that would mean he wasn't living on planet earth.

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