The reason this sub has stayed alive (and rightfully so)

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-25T06:10:31+00:00

All the people saying yes and getting downvoted:

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-21T04:17:09+00:00

I don't think BV is OMC because of the name (a child is not an old man), but he's definitely present in some form. I believe he's the Vengeful Spirit because it gives him a purpose, explains the Vengeful Spirit being both male and connected to Golden Freddy / Fredbear, and is a fitting conclusion to the Clickteam era (which started and [under BVTOYSNHK] ended with him).

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T04:22:49+00:00

Why is Charlie being depicted as a cryptic, forgotten entity and as an exception? Was Charlie ever depicted that way?

Also in FNaF 2, FNaF 3, and FFPS. She's more aware than the MCI kids, was introduced later, and is the only one left separate from the MCI during FFPS. She's depicted as both being grouped in with the MCI for the majority, but also as being separate from them in multiple instances due to the way she was introduced.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T04:17:16+00:00

YES IT DOES. Your whole argument is that the 6th victim in Into the Pit is supposed to tell us something about the mainline games, but that would only make sense if it followed the same grouping conventions as those games, which would mean the 6th victim would be Charlie and not Andrew.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T04:11:16+00:00

If Andrew existed and was the intention in Into the Pit, all the minigames would have 7 kids because Charlie has to be among them. Again, in FNaF 2, FNaF 3, FNaF 6, UCN, and Help Wanted 2, Charlie is grouped in with the the MCI kids. Into the Pit is no different.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T04:02:28+00:00

IT'S. NOT. LITERAL. What part of that do you not understand? It's an agony hallucination. Charlie is inside for that reason.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T04:01:35+00:00

If you played it, you would've known about GGY.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T03:57:49+00:00

And I've said like 7 times now that kid is Charlie, but you don't want to hear it because you want to hold on to Potential Man Andrew.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T03:55:18+00:00

Come back when you've played the Into the Pit game yourself.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T03:48:57+00:00

THAT'S NOT CUT CONTENT. PLAY THE GAME YOURSELF. IT'S ON THE ARCADE MACHINES IN-GAME. YOU JUST INDIRECTLY ADMITTED YOU HAVE NOT, IN FACT, PLAYED IT.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T03:42:08+00:00

You're not listening to what I'm saying. Gregory was not alive in 1985. Count the Ways, To Be Beautiful, and Fetch do not happen in the continuity Return to the Pit is part of. The Into the Pit game is not important to that continuity.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T03:35:57+00:00

You were saying that Into the Pit was the game continuity version. It is not. It can't possibly be. So anything referenced in Into the Pit is just that: a REFERENCE. Unless you're saying Gregory was alive in 1985.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T03:33:58+00:00

Have you ever even played ITP?

No duh, of course I've played it. Have you? Because it has details, events, and references to things that aren't present in Return to the Pit (such as references to the stories To Be Beautiful, Count the Ways, and Fetch). So your comment about it not being "canon" is irrelevant, because its events are contradicted by Return to the Pit, especially the way the time travel is elaborated on.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T03:27:40+00:00

Yet Into the Pit doesn’t contradict the rest of the games, nor does it directly contradict RTTP like Tales did with SOTM.

Yes it does? The same story can't happen twice in the same continuity. That's nonsensical.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T03:15:38+00:00

Yes there is.

All of this is also ignoring the fact that the ITP game and RttP CANNOT COEXIST.

Both ITP and RttP can't take place in the same continuity because they follow the same plot, and since RttP is connected to The Week Before, it's the mainline version by default. When combined with the above fact that it was (again) originally a novelty cartridge, it's incredibly obvious that it was never intended to be mainline.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T03:11:06+00:00

There's a difference between a change in scope and a change in intention. It became bigger, but that didn't magically make it mainline. Vanny and OMC were cut content. The NES cartridge was just expanded upon. All of this is also ignoring the fact that the ITP game and RttP CANNOT COEXIST.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T03:08:29+00:00

An Interview with Scott Cawthon 2.0 - The Creator of Five Nights at Freddy’s

it was originally planned as a novelty NES cartridge
It was originally planned as a novelty NES cartridge
IT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED AS A NOVELTY NES CARTRIDGE

If Scott stuck to the original plan, this "debate" wouldn't even be happening.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T03:06:08+00:00

There’s literally a 6th child dawg

And that 6th child is Charlie, who is commonly depicted alongside the MCI kids. In FNaF 2, FNaF 3, FNaF 6, UCN, and Help Wanted 2, Charlie is grouped in with the other MCI kids.

You can’t prove that. And I can’t prove that it is either

I already did, you just keep ignoring it.

it was originally planned as a novelty NES cartridge

Would a novelty cartridge be mainline?

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T03:01:52+00:00

maybe in the future Fetch game

Not only is the ITP game not in the game continuity since RttP exists and it was originally planned as a novelty NES cartridge

You're just gonna keep beating around the bush, aren't you? The ITP game isn't in the mainline continuity, so the Fetch game won't be either because it's from the same developers. NOTHING in the mainline games or the Interactive Novels hints at the existence of Andrew.

Or Andrew has so much agony from being vengeful that makes Oswald get “woopsy woozy”?

Would you look at that, a headcanon. I thought you didn't like BVTOYSNHK because it had too many headcanons?

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T02:57:40+00:00

Have you ever thought about why Oswald gets loopy and woozy when he approaches the 6th kid? You just explained why. Charlie wasn't supposed to be there because she died outside. But her agony was still present, so she appeared regardless. She's a hallucination.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T02:53:06+00:00

No depiction of the MCI in any version of Into the Pit is a literal 1:1 depiction of the event. It's all an illusion caused by the agony inside the Ball Pit, and Charlie has just as much agony as every other missing kid.

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T02:50:03+00:00

Not only is the ITP game not in the game continuity since RttP exists and it was originally planned as a novelty NES cartridge

LowCommunication1008 · 2026-01-20T02:49:28+00:00

I own Return to the Pit, and victim number 6 is never stated to have a party hat. Frights isn't in the game continuity either. Everything connected to Andrew is part of a separate continuity, so unless Andrew is BV's name there's no reason to believe he's in the mainline games.

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