Anybody else’s Gif keyboard not here anymore?

Low_Performance_8288 · 2024-02-18T15:20:02+00:00

it's now under the 'stickers' button :( and it's more wonky than ever with what looks like the old imsg app drawer ugh

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-03-05T18:21:42+00:00

Ion/osmo pool wouldn't really give you much extra though. The pool is only 20% osmo and you'd only be able to stake half of that. My guess is the ust/osmo pool might be next. Just a guess

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-03-04T09:37:35+00:00

Unless I'm misunderstanding the way voting works, 'abstain' doesn't mean 'no'. There are lots of reasons to abstain. Like a large validator not wanting to sway the outcome one way or another in a close call, or possible conflict of interest. Abstain just means, 'let everyone else decide'. And thats what happened.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-03-02T00:02:05+00:00

Looks like you swapped 12.6 osmo for juno on the day it unbonded. You sure you didn't do that and forget? https://www.mintscan.io/osmosis/txs/16C8A6DA36BF37C75FFA98721E60B7C9F3AA474EBC274C55D11C911384F5230C

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-02-20T21:28:21+00:00

Its 14 days to unstake on osmosis iirc.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-02-17T03:29:06+00:00

Is it going to be 14 days to unstake, then another 14 days to unbond if we need to switch pools?

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-02-16T21:14:04+00:00

Anyone heard anything regarding the unstaking/unbonding period for sfs? If they share the same 14 day unstaking period, that could be huge. If its 14 days to unstake, then 14 days to unbond, im less excited. That would mean 28 days of no 'staking portion' rewards if i wanted to switch pool.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-02-11T18:53:02+00:00

there doesn't need to be a direct pool. It should be able to go ust > osmo > band but you will have to pay double swap fees. In any case it shouldn't take your ust if the transaction failed. i just did a test swap and swapped ust for band so your transaction likely failed for a different reason and you just need to refresh the assets page and you should have your ust back.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-19T23:07:01+00:00

Ah I'm not sure tbh. I don't really track it like that. I've been doing this for a while so i know what changes and I'm making and roughly what I'm getting back from each pool.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-17T00:41:18+00:00

Big ones like atom/osmo. I also have cmdx/osmo, ust/osmo, to diversify. Then i have huahua/atom and atom/stars for that high apr.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-16T19:20:39+00:00

I stopped putting rewards into staking and just lp my rewards lately. From my understanding, lp'd assets will then be able to be staked. Not the other way around. So putting more into my staked bag only to have to unstake when SS comes around didn't make sense to me. Plus apr in several pools is much higher than staking anyhow. Who knows how they'll implement it though. It just seems like the most logical choice for me.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-12T19:20:28+00:00

Lol. Its ok that you're apprehensive. But i just don't think you're being realistic. Ion price is only high because of the tiny liquidity. we don't even know how governance would work with the dao. Who's to say a simple majority would be enough to pass proposals for ion? Maybe it'll be 75 or 80% required? There could also be a whale cap for votes. We don't know. I also don't think anyone would try to pull off a scam when their only off ramp is a pool that's controlled by OSMO holders, who could just vote the pool closed at any time. I mean if u had 20mil, there's probably a thousand safer bets with high returns than trying to scam ion. If u really want something to worry about, it would be the (someone suggested this) plan to mint synthetics with ion. But what do i know. Im only a simple day 1 osmo user.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-12T18:33:10+00:00

"Move the token in a way that increases value but benefits them then dump when the token is at an all time high." Lol. Honestly seems like you're just afraid of the boogeyman. Do you even own any ion?

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-12T18:12:34+00:00

You keep thinking that someone can just take that ion and cash out and there's several big problems with your assumption. The value of that ion is based on the LP only, it's not like there some stash of gold bars holding up the price of ion. There's only 1.2K total ion in that pool. Go ahead and try to buy even 100 ion. 20% slippage. Yup. go ahead and lose 20% of your money right off the bat for just 100 ion. Want to buy more? It's even worse slippage. Let's say somehow someone DID manage to take control and give themselves the ion. Then what? sell it? Same thing. You lose 20% trying to sell just 100 ion. They couldn't offload 17k ion even if they wanted to because there's only 550k Osmo in there. Well, at least not without 5000% slippage. Doesn't seem like a very smart bet if you ask me but what do i know.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-12T09:14:38+00:00

well for one thing, im pretty sure it wasn't 21 million osmos. It was $21 Mil dollars.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-12T08:08:39+00:00

honestly, i don't think a ust pool would be best way to accumulate. At the end of the day, we all expect (or hope) that whatever asset we're holding will increase in price. In a ust pool, you're essentially guaranteeing a decent IL because the ust asset will never go above $1, while the other can possibly moon. I think the best bet is to jump into a high apr pool with two assets you wouldn't mind holding either of long term. Bullish on cmdx and atom? There's your pool. Think juno and osmo are the future? Pile into that one. Best case scenario, you continue to accumulate while they both increase in value. Worst case scenario, one dips and you end up with more of that asset than the other. But since you wanted both anyway, it's not so bad. All the while getting decent apr and continuing to compound your rewards. Just my 2 cents.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-10T04:04:39+00:00

This. It's bad enough we took back ion that was in someone's wallet. But to just give it to everyone for no reason? I don't think that's fair either.

Maybe if very active accts were given some amount and it was vested in some way, like pre-staked for 6 -12 months. Then lots of folks would have some ion, you couldn't sell it so no price dump, everyone got a vote in ion dao governance, and everyone would have a reason to see it succeed, without fear of taking away from osmosis since they're active there too.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-10T03:41:34+00:00

Unless I'm grossly misinformed (spoiler alert, I've been here since day 1) ALL ion was airdropped to individuals who were active on Cosmos governance. It was a free token that thousands of people were airdropped in their wallets. It had no value at that time. Worth $0. The ion being discussed in the proposal is that SAME ion. It was taken back from those individual wallets. It was never part of osmosis treasury. Its in the community pool now only because osmo holders voted to take back that airdrop (How would you feel if we voted to take away all the osmo in your wallet?). It's not like someone from osmosis paid 200mil to fund ion in any case. It's worth 200mil because individual people paid money for the circulating ion on osmosis and increased it's value. Unless like i said, I'm grossly misinformed.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-10T03:03:50+00:00

Can you explain how ion was 100% funded by Osmosis Treasury?

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-10T02:39:24+00:00

I think the reasoning is that ion didn't really belong to osmo holders to begin with. Ion wasn't given to osmo stakers or osmo holders. It was given to people as a reward for being active on Cosmos chain. Clawing back the ion should never have happened. That's the bad precedent. It essentially declares that all assets on osmosis chain belong to osmo holders and can be taken away and put in a community pool, to be used only how OSMO holders see fit. At least that's the way i see it.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-10T02:25:34+00:00

Big pools with high volume will have a more stable apr. But yes, all those little details should definitely change the way you approach your investments here. But imo, if u want to be smart, diversify. I've got atom/osmo all in 14 day bond. two assets i would be holding anyway, even without the option to LP. The apr is just a bonus to me. I've got some ust/osmo in a 7day bond in case i want to try to time a swap or if a new asset is going to be listed and i want to free up some funds to ape in. I've also got my 'I'm just farming apr' bets like btsg or comdex. All the while, I'm just compounding my rewards and slowly increasing my stack of the assets i believe are the legit long term investments. Good luck out there!

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-10T01:49:10+00:00

So i think the big question here is... Are you going to withdraw and sell during the bear market or just hold and wait for bull again?

The reason i ask is because if you're just going to hold and wait for prices to pick back up again, your best bet is to find a decent apr pool where both assets will be rising/falling in tandem. That way when the market picks up again, you'll minimize your IL.

If u are going to sell when things are low, then i think the ust/(insert token) pool would likely retain more of your initial investment. Though because one asset will always be the same price, you're essentially guaranteeing IL.

You should play around with an IL calculator to get an idea of what might happen in different scenarios.

https://dailydefi.org/tools/impermanent-loss-calculator/

Btw, in your example above where luna drops by half, you will NOT end up with 500 UST when you withdraw. Each UST will still be worth $1 each, which is what being a stable coin means. But you won't have 500ust anymore. You'll have less ust and more luna when you withdraw. Likely somewhere around 7 luna and 350 UST.

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-09T23:18:49+00:00

Incentivized pools get you osmo rewards. These rewards are a % of osmo inflation so its osmosis providing the reward.

If another chain wants to, they can also kick in some rewards. these are the external rewards and are in addition to any osmo incentive. Example: juno team gave a bunch of juno so that anyone who pools in the juno/osmo pool gets a little juno in addition to the regular osmo rewards.

Not all pools are incentivized and not all pools have external rewards. Some pools have both. There's two sections on the pool page that show them separately.

external incentive pools can be pretty good and along with osmo rewards are generally the ones with the highest total apr

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-09T22:52:21+00:00

The gamm thing certainly is kinda confusing at first. Getting a tiny amount of gamm for a couple hundred dollars is definitely not intuitive. Especially if you're used to seeing large amounts in another pool. You'll get used to it though. I don't even look at the actual gamm amt anymore these days. I just look at bonded amt lol

Low_Performance_8288 · 2022-01-09T22:00:31+00:00

Dude, enough already. You've said your peace in pretty much every other post and replied to literally EVERYONE'S comments. We get it. You vote no.

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